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Didn't Richard Reid have something like this?
1 posted on 05/05/2003 6:42:51 AM PDT by ewing
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To: ewing
Bin Laden and Arafat are homicide bombers. Their drones are suicide bombers. There is a factual difference, and acknowledging it pays no respect to any of the b*st*rds. Calling the so-called Palestinians "homicide" bombers sacrifices factual data for the sake of emotion and feelings.

Tim McVeigh was a "homicide" bomber. But, no one called him that because, let's face it, the term is just plain ridiculous. Everyone who bombs with the intent or result of killing people is a "homicide" bomber.

On the other hand, a "suicide" bomber is a different kind of nut who kills himself along with his victims. If the term "suicide" triggers some kind of "victim" status for the reader, that's the reader's problem.

Just like all lame, PC terminology, "homicide bomber" is a hollow euphemism fabricated to avoid offending sheep-minded people who should know better than to be looking for reasons to be offended by mere words.

Otherwise, go rewrite history, and eliminate "kamikaze" from WWII.

C'mon, let the liberal PC crowd be the ones whose feelings outweigh their love for truth. Not us.

2 posted on 05/05/2003 7:12:55 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion. You have the right to be wrong ;o)
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To: ewing
>>undetectable to standard screening instruments at borders and airports.


Seeing as even still about 1 out of 3 attempts to get low-tech weapons like knives and guns thru airport screeners are still successful (even after blowing thru billions of dollars for security) this should be of no particular concern...
4 posted on 05/05/2003 7:27:29 AM PDT by freeper12 (Republican president, republican senate, republican house...where are the spending cuts??)
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To: ewing
So? There are undetectable explosives (with the currently instaled equipment). I know of at least one that is, for practical purposes, totaly undetectable and leaves no traces after the explosion. I doubt that anyone has figured out how to use it for any type of suicide attack, or that they could, but it is just an example of what commonly available materials can be used for.

If anyone thinks that explosives detectors can make us safe, they need to rethink their position. All we can hope for is to reduce the potential by making it harder to sneak commonly used explosives through checkpoints. Where there is a will there is a way. Burgular alarm systems haven't eliminated burglars, they just attract a smarter burglar.

5 posted on 05/05/2003 7:38:33 AM PDT by templar
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To: ewing
When I travel I routinely take, in my carry-on, two or more cans of soft drinks that go right through the x-ray. I have yet to be asked to open them and they haven't yet even checked them for the factory seal. Just imagine what a terrorist could put in a can that may cause havoc if one could replicate a factory seal? If one knows an airport security screener, please pass this on.
8 posted on 05/05/2003 8:00:41 AM PDT by Final Authority
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To: ewing
I had this idea, which will probably reenforce my reputation as a bit of an eccentric in the unlikely event that anyone were to take it seriously -

Back in my former life as a NH State Trooper, I had occasion once to chat with an old German "Master Blaster" demolitions expert at a construction site I happened to be held up at while he made his "shot".

I asked him about the warning sign instructing motorists to "Turn Off 2-Way Radios" approaching the site, and why I needed to shut my Police Cruiser's radio off.

He explained that just having the unit turned on was not a problem, really, but that in the event I was to transmit over it, and in the unlikely event that the standing wavelength of the frequency I was transmitting on happened to match or be a certain multiple or fraction of a length of nearby det wire, the wire might pick up enough of an electrical charge by "induction" to prematurely fire a cap or charge.

He then proceeded to touch off his charge in a granite ledge about 150 yards away - and let me push the plunger of the old-fashioned detanator, something I had long wanted to do.
I had asked him about how far the debries from the blast would travel, and he pointed to a spot on the pavement about 15 feet from where we were standing - "Aboot Zere." he said quite matter-of-factly.

So when he gave the word, I hit the plunger; the road under us bucked, and dirt, rocks, and rubber blasting mats flew up in the air in a most delightful manner. As some of the boulders headed back our way, I began to get a little concerned... but not Old Heintz.

As the smoke and dust began to settle, a rock about the size of a golf-ball rolled up and stopped - right on the spot the old Deutchlander had pointed out.

"Mach Gutt." He said.

Any way... as I see the pictures of dead and mangled Israelis being carted off from the scene of the latest Islammokazi (I think I just invented that word, by the way, but please feel free to use it if you like) hit, I can't help but wonder what might be done to defend people from these murderous whackkos.

So how's this?;

Do the explosive vests these buggers use contain a certain length of wire as part of the detonation system?

Might a highly directional antennae be rigged to a powerful radio transmitter that would emit a short burst of microwave energy (just under what would cause tissue damage) in a range of frequencies apt to match a fraction or multiple of one of those wires? Sort of like an EMP generator, only portable and aimable.

When Security spots a suspicious character skulking around in the open, perhaps enroute to or looking for a target, they aim this "Radar Gun" thing discretely and "zing" him with a burst of radio energy.

Shucks; it might work with car-bombs approaching a checkpoint, for all I know.

If he's innocent, no harm done (except perhaps his walkman); if he's PLO (or whatever) wearing a boom-belt, then his wires catch induction and he is, as they say, "Hoist on his own petard".

Or "Splattered in his own Jihhad?"

Then set up a corridor of cement barriers - perhaps baffled at the ends, through which people (like bus passengers boarding) pass at intervals, sending laptops or electronic equipment they don't want toasted around (after inspection).

When Muchmed the Martyr goes through, an installed transmitter - perhaps tripped by a laser beam - transmits and "ZAP - KABLOOIE"; the blast is directed upwards away from security personel and bystanders.

"Cleanup in Isle 7!"

Yeah; I know - it's a whacky idea. I'm full of 'em!

I just hope somebody comes up with an effective defense for these things - the sooner the better.
11 posted on 05/05/2003 8:58:13 AM PDT by Uncle Jaque (Whack, Fal-De-La!; Babylon is fallen!)
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To: ewing
If they're trying to get Americans to give up flying, all they really have to do is sit back and let the TSA make the process so odious that Americans give it up voluntarily.
13 posted on 05/05/2003 9:26:44 AM PDT by Indrid Cold
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To: ewing
More stuff from Debka. I'd like to know what a standard detector detects. There are things in the laboratory stage of development that can tell you the fiber blend of your socks. And does this mean that detectors have been in use for some time? If so do we really want to know their capabilities?
25 posted on 05/05/2003 1:58:31 PM PDT by js1138
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