[George W. Bush]

Nice exchange with Ivy. Keep trying. Sometimes, even a person of hardened liberal bias. if strongly challenged, will examine more closely their ideas. Sometimes, they even recognize that what they have been spoonfed is a pack of lies. Maybe your challenge will help her find some truth.

[PsyOp]

"Maybe your challenge will help her find some truth."

One can only hope. I won't hold my breath though. For her to accept any of what I said would require a major change in her core beliefs. It usually requires some kind of major slap in the mentla face to produce that. The older one gets the harder the required slap in the head.