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Cop takes 'midnight photos' of teacher's classroom
Times Argus ^ | David Delcore

Posted on 05/06/2003 9:35:22 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun

BARRE – John Mott and Tom Treece have at least one thing in common. Make that two.

Both men think they have been unfairly accused and, if you believe their critics, both have had a chilling impact on students at Spaulding High School.

Mott is the Barre Town police officer who admits he spent part of an early morning break last month photographing student projects in the classroom of a controversial history teacher.

Treece is that teacher. A passionate pacifist, he has been skewered publicly by critics who say he is pedaling his personal political views to the students in his class. Part of the proof, critics say, is in the photographs Mott took when he visited the high school April 9 while on duty, in uniform, and out of his jurisdiction.

The photographs were taken at around 1:30 a.m. after Mott, who once worked at Spaulding, persuaded a custodian to unlock the door to the classroom Treece shares with another teacher.

Mott isn’t apologizing for his actions and says he has at least temporarily refused orders from Barre Town Police Chief Michael Stevens and Town Manager Carl Rogers to supply school officials with copies of the photographs.

“I’m going to speak to an attorney first,” he said.

Mott disputes an account of the April 9 incident contained in a letter written by school Superintendent Dorothy Anderson to the police chief.

Specifically, Mott disputes Anderson’s claim that he “banged on the front door” of the high school to get the attention of night custodian Arnold Cliche, and that Cliche opened the door and let him in.

“It didn’t happen that way,” he said.

According to Mott, he entered the school through an unlocked maintenance door, found Cliche and asked him to unlock the door to Treece’s classroom room so he could take photographs with his personal camera. Although he was on duty at the time, Mott maintains that he was on a break and wanted to photograph student projects that offended him as an American and a retired military man.

“I wanted everybody else to see what was in that room. You can’t explain it,” he said.

Among the student projects that Mott said he photographed were a poster of the President Bush with duct tape over his mouth and a large papier-mâché combat boot with the American flag stuffed inside stepping on a doll. He said there also were pictures of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro and his former chief lieutenant, Ernesto “Che” Guevara, posted on the walls.

“Having spent 30 years in uniform, I was insulted,” he said. “… I’m just taking a stand on what happens in that classroom as a resident and a voter and a taxpayer of this community.”

Mott said he took the photographs less than 48 hours after attending a school board meeting at which several residents complained about what they claimed was an attempt to “indoctrinate” not “educate” students.

School officials have rejected that notion, defending Treece as a “thought-provoking” teacher who provides students in his public issues class with resources from the full spectrum of political perspectives.

“As a teacher he (Treece) does present all sides of an issue,” Anderson said.

Anderson said she was concerned that Mott used his uniform to gain access to a locked classroom after hours without supervision.

“I find this behavior, at the very least, in violation of our policy for visitors at the school,” she wrote in her letter to the police chief. “I also find it disturbing that a police officer would wear his uniform under such circumstances thereby intimidating our employee (Cliche) into letting him in the building at a very unusual hour.”

Anderson said she met with the police chief and the town manager on Friday to discuss her concerns and to reiterate her request for copies of the photographs Mott took and has been circulating in the community. She said Mott had not yet complied with that request, which is based solely on her desire to confirm the photographs were not doctored in any way.

“We’re not embarrassed about what was in that classroom,” she said. “We just want to make sure that the pictures he (Mott) took are an accurate reflection of what the classroom looked like.”

Mott said the photographs he took are authentic and accused school officials of “tap-dancing” around an issue that was brought to their attention last month by using the circumstances under which he entered Treece’s classroom as a diversion.

“It leads me to believe they are out witch-hunting,” he said.

Treece said he knows the feeling. He says Mott and his other detractors don’t have a clue about what he does in his classroom, but that hasn’t stopped them from jumping to conclusions based on his personal political views.

“None of these parents know me in any way,” he said. “They just think they know me. Everything they know about me is hearsay. They don’t have kids in my class. They have taken lies and innuendoes and run with them.”

Treece does not hide his personal views and acknowledges his public criticisms of the war in Iraq and President Bush have irked many in the community. However, he said their contention that he is force-feeding his views to Spaulding students is simply wrong.

“I tell kids from day one: ‘I don’t want you to agree with me, I want you to be informed and think for yourselves,” he said. “I have never squashed dissent in my class in any way shape or form.”

Treece said his message to students is simple: “Defend what you believe and if you can’t defend it I’m going to pick holes in your argument no matter what side of the issue you’re on.”

Treece said he supplies his students with a broad range of resources and encourages them to use them to come to their own conclusions.

“My goal in that class is to get kids to think and be critical of everything they read and hear and see,” he said.

Treece said he’s tired of being painted as anti-American simply because he challenges students not to take what anyone – not the president, their parents, or even he – says at face value.

“I want them to understand that everybody’s got an agenda … everybody,” he said.

Treece said that goes for his detractors, some of whom are using the controversy over a six-word sentence – “All hail the idiot boy king” – that he posted on a bulletin board next to a picture of President Bush as a reason to reject the high school budget. The budget is scheduled for a re-vote next week.

“They’re out to get the budget and they’ve made me their whipping boy,” he said.

Treece makes no apologies for how he conducts his classes or for his own political views. In retrospect, he said, the comment he posted about Bush was probably too direct.

The board meets at 7 p.m. in the high school library. Like the Malones, both Mott and Treece said they plan to attend.

“I did not recognize how fragile people’s feelings were at the time,” he said. “It was horrible timing on my part.”

If he had it to do over again, Treece said he would spell out the same sentiments in two pages of text that wouldn’t have offended anyone.

Paul and Norma Malone, the local couple who first took issue with the comment Treece posted on the board, insist they’re not out to scuttle the budget, but want to restore balance in the curriculum at Spaulding.

“Our position has been and still is there should be a balance in that curriculum and respect in that school,” said Paul Malone.

Although the couple’s criticism is not limited to Treece, they admit his comment served as a springboard for their effort.

“It’s not an issue of freedom of speech. That was never the issue,” he said. “It’s an issue of balance and it’s an issue of professionalism.”

Based on discussions with faculty, parents and students, Norma Malone said students from a largely conservative community are being urged to view the world to through a liberal lens.

“There’s nothing from the center or from the right,” she said, rejecting Treece’s comments to the contrary.

The Malones, who have formed the group “Citizens Advocating Responsible Education,” say they plan to attend tonight’s school board meeting and present a copy of a petition signed by several hundred supporters. The petition states in part: “Students must be provided a thorough, factual, unbiased study of the history of our nation, the importance of our government institutions, and the significance of our political traditions so as to engender civic duty and respect for our national values.”

In order to accomplish that goal, the petition suggests revisions to the school’s policy regarding academic freedom and the appointment of community members to the school board’s curriculum committee.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; antibush; blameamericafirst; bushbashing; commies; communists; hateamericafirst; leftwinghategroup; litteredschoolhouse; looneyleft; police; procastro; prodictator; publicschool; redmenace; students; taxdollarsatwork; theredmenace; vermont; youpayforthis
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To: r9etb
Why was he supposed to enter that building? Was a crime being committed? Was it in his juristiction? No, in both cases. So why was he supposed to enter that building?
361 posted on 05/06/2003 12:53:49 PM PDT by RonF
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To: Travis McGee
"Don't be silly. We have only heard of anti-US, anti-Bush, pro-Fidel and Che posters on the wall, nothing else.
To guess out of the clear blue at anyhing else only makes you sound foolish."

I'm just trying to point out that we don't know the facts here of all of what was in there, and presenting a hypothetical case where publication of 3 or 4 photographs of what was in that classroom could present a misleading apprehension of what was going on.
362 posted on 05/06/2003 12:55:41 PM PDT by RonF
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To: RonF; MineralMan; dirtboy
What you are doing ... is using conservative rhetoric to force teach liberal tyranny --- persecute others !
363 posted on 05/06/2003 12:57:00 PM PDT by f.Christian (( With Rights ... comes Responsibilities --- irresponsibility --- whacks // criminals - psychos ! ))
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To: anniegetyourgun
"About indoctrination"- you're absolutley right. While Joe McCarthy will be vilified for the next month or so, his suspicions about the infiltration of our educational system seem to have come true, regardless, of what those people call themselves. He called them liberals and democrats.
364 posted on 05/06/2003 12:57:25 PM PDT by ampat
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To: anniegetyourgun
It's OK for him to call Bush an "idiot boy king" - none of which is true, but he gets his feelings hurt when people call him un-American. What a jackass.
365 posted on 05/06/2003 12:58:18 PM PDT by HeadOn (The course of this nation does not depend on the decisions of others.)
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To: MineralMan
You obviously do not live in the communist county of Santa Cruz, if you do not believe there are communists teaching children in school.

Few communists in our county are actual members of the communist party because they know that can get them canned from their government and teaching jobs. They do however become democratic socialists or green party members-- which are thinly disguised communist venues. Since there are no laws about hiring members of the green party, they skirt that issue.

It is true in American History the Revolution is bypassed. The book starts with the reconstruction after the civil war. The japanese internment is so popular with our school district, last year they partnered with the city of Watsonville to do a re-enactment in the town square, including the arrest and removal of actors playing japanese people.

You don't know the half of it, so Please don't insult me by saying that I am whining. You do not know my involvment in the community or the number of hours I spend volunteering on school and community projects.

You have a perfect school, but you don't say where it is. I would like to look up information about it.
366 posted on 05/06/2003 12:58:33 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: RonF
So why was he supposed to enter that building?

Doh!!!! Because I forgot to type 'nt after "was." ;-)

It should have read "wasn't supposed to enter." Nice to see that you read my post, though.

367 posted on 05/06/2003 1:00:01 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
How dare you interject facts into this discussion! :-)
368 posted on 05/06/2003 1:00:07 PM PDT by zeugma (Hate pop-up ads? Here's the fix: http://www.mozilla.org/)
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To: MineralMan
Of course, then you can go to Mark Twain's quote:

"First, God created idiots. That was for practice. Then he created school boards."

There's some truth there, too.
369 posted on 05/06/2003 1:01:01 PM PDT by RonF
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To: RonF
"First, God created idiots. That was for practice. Then he created news boards."

370 posted on 05/06/2003 1:15:11 PM PDT by f.Christian (( With Rights ... comes Responsibilities --- irresponsibility --- whacks // criminals - psychos ! ))
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To: RonF
Yes, but you don't know how many pictures of what type were up on that wall. There could have been 20 pictures supporting the USA's current foreign policy, and 3 opposing it. If the pictures are of those 3 only, then a false picture is being painted.

If you believe that after having read about that teacher's political beliefs than you are very gullible.

371 posted on 05/06/2003 1:16:22 PM PDT by Lauratealeaf (Iraqis say, Good, Very Good, Bush Good!)
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To: Lauratealeaf
What they are doing ... is using conservative rhetoric to force teach liberal tyranny --- persecute others !


372 posted on 05/06/2003 1:19:15 PM PDT by f.Christian (( With Rights ... comes Responsibilities --- irresponsibility --- whacks // criminals - psychos ! ))
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To: anniegetyourgun
I never heard of teachers doing anything of this sort when X42 was president. I have seen photos of a number of antiAmerican and antiBush class projects as well as reports of teachers burning their classroom flags and making "we deserved it" statements with regards to 9.11.
373 posted on 05/06/2003 1:25:33 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: weegee
What is the school teaching your child about 9/11?
375 posted on 05/06/2003 1:41:16 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: rudeboy666
Will fire depts need entry warrants ...

if the cops are technically wrong about something ---

oj is innocent -- framed !
376 posted on 05/06/2003 1:43:07 PM PDT by f.Christian (( With Rights ... comes Responsibilities --- irresponsibility --- whacks // criminals - psychos ! ))
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Why didn't some parents go in legitimately and take pics? The school is paid for with the community tax monies. Parents have a right to know what their kids are being taught. (For those that don't know, I teach.)
377 posted on 05/06/2003 1:44:05 PM PDT by GummyIII
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To: rudeboy666
Indeed. This is something I started to notice about this board much more after GWBush was elected. The very same people who would have vilified the clinton administration for a particular action support it because it is being proposed by someone with an (R) by his name.

I guess I'm always suprised at how few people have actual principles. Too many would be all to willing to cheer on just about any action as long as it is proposed by the 'correct' party. From what I've seen over my life, I'm firmly convinced that if you happen to currently be under 40 years of age, you'll probably live to see the day when only the most delusional will be able to claim they don't live in a police state.

We'll have both democrats and (shhh don't say it too loudly here) republican politicians to thank for it. Of course, it won't be exactly the same kind of facist nightmare that we saw in germany last century, as history seldom repeats its lessons exactly, so some will be able to rationalize the steady incremental nibbles of the massive corporate state that will eventually eat their young.

If you could get any 3 libertarians to be able to agree what to have for lunch, they might be a voice against what is coming, but the facts are that trying to effectively organize folks of a libertarian bent is pretty much like herding cats, but less enjoyable.

378 posted on 05/06/2003 1:51:02 PM PDT by zeugma (Hate pop-up ads? Here's the fix: http://www.mozilla.org/)
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To: hedgetrimmer
"Few communists in our county are actual members of the communist party because they know that can get them canned from their government and teaching jobs.


Actually, being a Communist is not against the law in this country, nor can anyone be fired for being a Communist and being a public school teacher. Nor can they be fired for being a member of the Green Party or any other political party.

You seem to be living in another country that the USA, where people are free to hold unpopular political positions.

You may not like the fact that people can hold political views far from yours, but that does not mean they are breaking any laws.

I disagree with those positions, but I swore an oath when I joined the USAF to defend those people's right to hold any political position they wish, as long as they do not try to overthrow the government by force.

Lots of people disagree with me, but are still US citizens, with all the rights pertaining to that citizenship, even if I think their views are wrong.
379 posted on 05/06/2003 1:55:55 PM PDT by MineralMan
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To: hedgetrimmer
"You don't know the half of it, so Please don't insult me by saying that I am whining. You do not know my involvment in the community or the number of hours I spend volunteering on school and community projects.

You have a perfect school, but you don't say where it is. I would like to look up information about it."

I did not say you were whining. You are correct; I do not know what you do in your community. I object to those who whine and do nothing. If you are active, then I fully support your activism.

As for where I am, I will not reveal personal information on Free Republic.
380 posted on 05/06/2003 1:57:08 PM PDT by MineralMan
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