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Cop takes 'midnight photos' of teacher's classroom
Times Argus ^ | David Delcore

Posted on 05/06/2003 9:35:22 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun

BARRE – John Mott and Tom Treece have at least one thing in common. Make that two.

Both men think they have been unfairly accused and, if you believe their critics, both have had a chilling impact on students at Spaulding High School.

Mott is the Barre Town police officer who admits he spent part of an early morning break last month photographing student projects in the classroom of a controversial history teacher.

Treece is that teacher. A passionate pacifist, he has been skewered publicly by critics who say he is pedaling his personal political views to the students in his class. Part of the proof, critics say, is in the photographs Mott took when he visited the high school April 9 while on duty, in uniform, and out of his jurisdiction.

The photographs were taken at around 1:30 a.m. after Mott, who once worked at Spaulding, persuaded a custodian to unlock the door to the classroom Treece shares with another teacher.

Mott isn’t apologizing for his actions and says he has at least temporarily refused orders from Barre Town Police Chief Michael Stevens and Town Manager Carl Rogers to supply school officials with copies of the photographs.

“I’m going to speak to an attorney first,” he said.

Mott disputes an account of the April 9 incident contained in a letter written by school Superintendent Dorothy Anderson to the police chief.

Specifically, Mott disputes Anderson’s claim that he “banged on the front door” of the high school to get the attention of night custodian Arnold Cliche, and that Cliche opened the door and let him in.

“It didn’t happen that way,” he said.

According to Mott, he entered the school through an unlocked maintenance door, found Cliche and asked him to unlock the door to Treece’s classroom room so he could take photographs with his personal camera. Although he was on duty at the time, Mott maintains that he was on a break and wanted to photograph student projects that offended him as an American and a retired military man.

“I wanted everybody else to see what was in that room. You can’t explain it,” he said.

Among the student projects that Mott said he photographed were a poster of the President Bush with duct tape over his mouth and a large papier-mâché combat boot with the American flag stuffed inside stepping on a doll. He said there also were pictures of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro and his former chief lieutenant, Ernesto “Che” Guevara, posted on the walls.

“Having spent 30 years in uniform, I was insulted,” he said. “… I’m just taking a stand on what happens in that classroom as a resident and a voter and a taxpayer of this community.”

Mott said he took the photographs less than 48 hours after attending a school board meeting at which several residents complained about what they claimed was an attempt to “indoctrinate” not “educate” students.

School officials have rejected that notion, defending Treece as a “thought-provoking” teacher who provides students in his public issues class with resources from the full spectrum of political perspectives.

“As a teacher he (Treece) does present all sides of an issue,” Anderson said.

Anderson said she was concerned that Mott used his uniform to gain access to a locked classroom after hours without supervision.

“I find this behavior, at the very least, in violation of our policy for visitors at the school,” she wrote in her letter to the police chief. “I also find it disturbing that a police officer would wear his uniform under such circumstances thereby intimidating our employee (Cliche) into letting him in the building at a very unusual hour.”

Anderson said she met with the police chief and the town manager on Friday to discuss her concerns and to reiterate her request for copies of the photographs Mott took and has been circulating in the community. She said Mott had not yet complied with that request, which is based solely on her desire to confirm the photographs were not doctored in any way.

“We’re not embarrassed about what was in that classroom,” she said. “We just want to make sure that the pictures he (Mott) took are an accurate reflection of what the classroom looked like.”

Mott said the photographs he took are authentic and accused school officials of “tap-dancing” around an issue that was brought to their attention last month by using the circumstances under which he entered Treece’s classroom as a diversion.

“It leads me to believe they are out witch-hunting,” he said.

Treece said he knows the feeling. He says Mott and his other detractors don’t have a clue about what he does in his classroom, but that hasn’t stopped them from jumping to conclusions based on his personal political views.

“None of these parents know me in any way,” he said. “They just think they know me. Everything they know about me is hearsay. They don’t have kids in my class. They have taken lies and innuendoes and run with them.”

Treece does not hide his personal views and acknowledges his public criticisms of the war in Iraq and President Bush have irked many in the community. However, he said their contention that he is force-feeding his views to Spaulding students is simply wrong.

“I tell kids from day one: ‘I don’t want you to agree with me, I want you to be informed and think for yourselves,” he said. “I have never squashed dissent in my class in any way shape or form.”

Treece said his message to students is simple: “Defend what you believe and if you can’t defend it I’m going to pick holes in your argument no matter what side of the issue you’re on.”

Treece said he supplies his students with a broad range of resources and encourages them to use them to come to their own conclusions.

“My goal in that class is to get kids to think and be critical of everything they read and hear and see,” he said.

Treece said he’s tired of being painted as anti-American simply because he challenges students not to take what anyone – not the president, their parents, or even he – says at face value.

“I want them to understand that everybody’s got an agenda … everybody,” he said.

Treece said that goes for his detractors, some of whom are using the controversy over a six-word sentence – “All hail the idiot boy king” – that he posted on a bulletin board next to a picture of President Bush as a reason to reject the high school budget. The budget is scheduled for a re-vote next week.

“They’re out to get the budget and they’ve made me their whipping boy,” he said.

Treece makes no apologies for how he conducts his classes or for his own political views. In retrospect, he said, the comment he posted about Bush was probably too direct.

The board meets at 7 p.m. in the high school library. Like the Malones, both Mott and Treece said they plan to attend.

“I did not recognize how fragile people’s feelings were at the time,” he said. “It was horrible timing on my part.”

If he had it to do over again, Treece said he would spell out the same sentiments in two pages of text that wouldn’t have offended anyone.

Paul and Norma Malone, the local couple who first took issue with the comment Treece posted on the board, insist they’re not out to scuttle the budget, but want to restore balance in the curriculum at Spaulding.

“Our position has been and still is there should be a balance in that curriculum and respect in that school,” said Paul Malone.

Although the couple’s criticism is not limited to Treece, they admit his comment served as a springboard for their effort.

“It’s not an issue of freedom of speech. That was never the issue,” he said. “It’s an issue of balance and it’s an issue of professionalism.”

Based on discussions with faculty, parents and students, Norma Malone said students from a largely conservative community are being urged to view the world to through a liberal lens.

“There’s nothing from the center or from the right,” she said, rejecting Treece’s comments to the contrary.

The Malones, who have formed the group “Citizens Advocating Responsible Education,” say they plan to attend tonight’s school board meeting and present a copy of a petition signed by several hundred supporters. The petition states in part: “Students must be provided a thorough, factual, unbiased study of the history of our nation, the importance of our government institutions, and the significance of our political traditions so as to engender civic duty and respect for our national values.”

In order to accomplish that goal, the petition suggests revisions to the school’s policy regarding academic freedom and the appointment of community members to the school board’s curriculum committee.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; antibush; blameamericafirst; bushbashing; commies; communists; hateamericafirst; leftwinghategroup; litteredschoolhouse; looneyleft; police; procastro; prodictator; publicschool; redmenace; students; taxdollarsatwork; theredmenace; vermont; youpayforthis
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To: Cultural Jihad
”There's a small cabal of anarcho-ideologue loons who make every effort to bash the police and American self-governance at every opportunity.”

Good summary.

In the first 250 posts on this issue at least 159 were not about the so-called “pacifist” teacher promoting some of the worst mass killers of the 20th century, but about the so-called “errors” of the cop who, as a concerned citizen, decided to document the results of this Radical Leftist teacher.

There is a sub-set of lunatic loons who appear to wish the end of American society as we know it. Like the Nazis and the communists in Weimar Germany, they have a great deal in common as potential destroyers of the social fabric.

I have engaged in several debates in the last few days, and I admire FreeRepublic as a forum for the free expression of ideas, but the overwhelming presence of this bunch of loons is very off-putting.

Lenin is supposed to have said that capitalists would sell him the rope by which they were to be hung. The “anarcho-loons” on this forum would not bother to sell the rope but provide it as a public service.

401 posted on 05/06/2003 5:54:41 PM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: Cultural Jihad
True, what is worse is they have to focus on the worst parts of the force. You focus on the worse parts of anything and you will hate it. Look at it from the perspective of having to run the organization. It sheds a whole new light on life.
402 posted on 05/06/2003 5:55:46 PM PDT by grapeape (Hope is not a method. - Gen. Hugh Shelton)
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To: MineralMan
Some here, apparently, do not realize that they can go to the school during normal school hours and arrange for a visit to their children's classrooms when classes are not in session. They can arrange for a meeting with their childrens' teachers, something very few parents ever bother to do.

You can go where I teach when class IS in session. But you have to go through the main office and get a visitor tag to wear just for security sake. Also, some parents are separated/divorced and one parent doesn't have custodial or visitation rights/privileges. That can get sticky. But as far as checking out the school and classes, sure! We BEG parents to come.

403 posted on 05/06/2003 7:11:51 PM PDT by GummyIII
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To: anniegetyourgun
This "teacher" needs ...
404 posted on 05/06/2003 8:34:35 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican ("hatemonger")
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To: Travis McGee
Talk about motivation...I got another chapter to proof. This is scary stuff when liberals love the stealer of corporate documents but hate cops, cops of all people, who out a communist indoctrinating children with anti-American, pro-communist propaganda. There is a hot wind blowing.
405 posted on 05/06/2003 8:39:04 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican ("hatemonger")
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To: anniegetyourgun
If my child had been in that class room I would have whisked him /her out THAT DAY and made the lastest set of tornadoes seem inconsequential. Why do parents put up with such garbage? That teacher should IMMEDIATELY be removed from the premises. There is no room in a PUBLIC SCHOOL for these propagandists. IMHO ;)
406 posted on 05/06/2003 8:45:10 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: dead; MineralMan
And if some politically-active, pro-abortion cop used his uniform and badge to gain access to a classroom in the middle of the night and take pictures of your child’s pro-life art project, you’d be screaming for a lot more than a suspension.

That happens all the time. You guys are nutcases. Take a midol.

407 posted on 05/06/2003 8:55:26 PM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: dirtboy
And without the consent of the property owners, namely the school board.

The cop was a property owner, namely a taxpayer.

408 posted on 05/06/2003 8:56:30 PM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: f.Christian
Last time. Speak english or be ignored. If you're trying to claim i'm liberal, then you don't know me.

Never mind. It's apparent from your other posts here today that you're either whacked out or incapable of holding an intellegent conversation.

409 posted on 05/06/2003 8:58:35 PM PDT by zeugma (Hate pop-up ads? Here's the fix: http://www.mozilla.org/)
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To: dirtboy
I'll try this example again, since you ignored it . Under you guidelines here, a cop could enter the mayor's office after hours, open a locked file cabinet and copy official papers without a warrant if he knows the custodian. Do you think THAT would be legal and NOT an abuse of his police powers?

That is not what happened Dirtbag. Try dealing with facts.

410 posted on 05/06/2003 9:06:00 PM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: Hacksaw
No, it doesn't happen all the time.

Nice diversion, though. It's obvious that you didn't want to address my point.

Would that scenario piss you off, or would you cheer on the pro-abortion liberal cop?

Don't bother answering, I already know.

411 posted on 05/06/2003 9:09:06 PM PDT by dead
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To: dead
Nice diversion, though. It's obvious that you didn't want to address my point.

You didn't have one. I like to deal with what DID happen. I KNEW when I heard about this on the radio there would be the usual PMS crowd bashing the cop on FR - and I was right. Cop with a camera - the libertines will have a fit.

Would that scenario piss you off, or would you cheer on the pro-abortion liberal cop?

I do not deal in scenarios. The cop is a hero. Considering the preponderance of pro-life, conservative sentiment in the public school industry, I'd say your scenario is not relevant.

Don't bother answering, I already know.

Too late. I support the cop. Since your boys have already brought in the Bolsheviks, I'd say you have worn out hyperbole to a standstill.

"b-b-b-but what if he broke into your house and took pictures...."

412 posted on 05/06/2003 9:33:30 PM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: r9etb
The janitor acted outside his authority. Approved after-hours access is defined in school policies.

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That is between the janitor and the employeer. The invitee is able to rely on the person being allowed in, AND this is enough to shoot down any tresspass charge.

Get over the tresspass IT WILL NOT STICK. Guilty Mind Guilty act. He was let in by permission, you must show he was going to come in no matter what. He knocked, he talked, the tresspass argument fails. Early in my life I have represented defendants on far more serious tresspass charges and won. The beyond a reasonable doubt burden of proof is on the government to prove.
413 posted on 05/06/2003 9:49:26 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: r9etb
The burden of proof would be on you to prove that Mott didn't violate 13 VSA 3705.

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NO, as the defendant the burden would be on the state to PROVE the violation did occur, besides I do not believe the statute you cited would be on point. First you have to prove the criminal tresspass which I have discussed would not hold.
414 posted on 05/06/2003 9:52:28 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: anniegetyourgun
What the police officer did was in the great American tradition of "civil disobedience," something that the liberals believe they are only capable of. A liberal would be applauding this act if it were to "expose" a "neoconservative."
415 posted on 05/06/2003 9:55:23 PM PDT by Contra
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To: longtermmemmory
He was let in by permission, you must show he was going to come in no matter what. He knocked, he talked, the tresspass argument fails. Early in my life I have represented defendants on far more serious tresspass charges and won. The beyond a reasonable doubt burden of proof is on the government to prove.

Later in life you apparently cannot even read for comprehension. Mott claims he walked in on his own -- no permission asked or granted. That's an admission of trespassing, as it's defined by Vermont law.

The district claims the janitor let Mott in because he was in uniform -- abuse of authority.

At any rate, Mott was a fool for doing what he did. He had no legitimate business in the school at that time of night.

416 posted on 05/06/2003 10:14:24 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: PatrioticAmerican
The silver lining is that the fools are listing themselves for future ref.
417 posted on 05/06/2003 10:29:14 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: moneyrunner
I like your post (( anarcho-loons )) ...

Hope you don't mind ---

I ... used --- it !

418 posted on 05/06/2003 10:30:42 PM PDT by f.Christian (( With Rights ... comes Responsibilities --- irresponsibility --- whacks // criminals - psychos ! ))
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To: dead
The cop stepped over the line here. If he wasn't on official business, he has no more of a right to be in that building at 1:30 in the morning than anybody else.

Sounds like NO laws were broken, and no rules either, as he was on one of his breaks . He used his own camera, the janitor let him in, so what?! He should be given an award for tipping off the town of the commie, liberal "teacher"!

419 posted on 05/06/2003 10:32:48 PM PDT by timestax
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To: Hacksaw
That's exactly what I thought you'd say.

You could have saved the typing.

420 posted on 05/06/2003 10:55:06 PM PDT by dead
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