Cop takes 'midnight photos' of teacher's classroom

Times Argus ^ | David Delcore

[moneyrunner]

”There's a small cabal of anarcho-ideologue loons who make every effort to bash the police and American self-governance at every opportunity.”

Good summary.

In the first 250 posts on this issue at least 159 were not about the so-called “pacifist” teacher promoting some of the worst mass killers of the 20th century, but about the so-called “errors” of the cop who, as a concerned citizen, decided to document the results of this Radical Leftist teacher.

There is a sub-set of lunatic loons who appear to wish the end of American society as we know it. Like the Nazis and the communists in Weimar Germany, they have a great deal in common as potential destroyers of the social fabric.

I have engaged in several debates in the last few days, and I admire FreeRepublic as a forum for the free expression of ideas, but the overwhelming presence of this bunch of loons is very off-putting.

Lenin is supposed to have said that capitalists would sell him the rope by which they were to be hung. The “anarcho-loons” on this forum would not bother to sell the rope but provide it as a public service.

[grapeape]

True, what is worse is they have to focus on the worst parts of the force. You focus on the worse parts of anything and you will hate it. Look at it from the perspective of having to run the organization. It sheds a whole new light on life.

[GummyIII]

Some here, apparently, do not realize that they can go to the school during normal school hours and arrange for a visit to their children's classrooms when classes are not in session. They can arrange for a meeting with their childrens' teachers, something very few parents ever bother to do.

You can go where I teach when class IS in session. But you have to go through the main office and get a visitor tag to wear just for security sake. Also, some parents are separated/divorced and one parent doesn't have custodial or visitation rights/privileges. That can get sticky. But as far as checking out the school and classes, sure! We BEG parents to come.

[PatrioticAmerican]

This "teacher" needs ...

[PatrioticAmerican]

Talk about motivation...I got another chapter to proof. This is scary stuff when liberals love the stealer of corporate documents but hate cops, cops of all people, who out a communist indoctrinating children with anti-American, pro-communist propaganda. There is a hot wind blowing.

[Libertina]

If my child had been in that class room I would have whisked him /her out THAT DAY and made the lastest set of tornadoes seem inconsequential. Why do parents put up with such garbage? That teacher should IMMEDIATELY be removed from the premises. There is no room in a PUBLIC SCHOOL for these propagandists. IMHO ;)

[Hacksaw]

And if some politically-active, pro-abortion cop used his uniform and badge to gain access to a classroom in the middle of the night and take pictures of your child’s pro-life art project, you’d be screaming for a lot more than a suspension.

That happens all the time. You guys are nutcases. Take a midol.

[Hacksaw]

And without the consent of the property owners, namely the school board.

The cop was a property owner, namely a taxpayer.

[zeugma]

Last time. Speak english or be ignored. If you're trying to claim i'm liberal, then you don't know me.

Never mind. It's apparent from your other posts here today that you're either whacked out or incapable of holding an intellegent conversation.

[Hacksaw]

I'll try this example again, since you ignored it . Under you guidelines here, a cop could enter the mayor's office after hours, open a locked file cabinet and copy official papers without a warrant if he knows the custodian. Do you think THAT would be legal and NOT an abuse of his police powers?

That is not what happened Dirtbag. Try dealing with facts.

[dead]

No, it doesn't happen all the time.

Nice diversion, though. It's obvious that you didn't want to address my point.

Would that scenario piss you off, or would you cheer on the pro-abortion liberal cop?

Don't bother answering, I already know.

[Hacksaw]

Nice diversion, though. It's obvious that you didn't want to address my point.

You didn't have one. I like to deal with what DID happen. I KNEW when I heard about this on the radio there would be the usual PMS crowd bashing the cop on FR - and I was right. Cop with a camera - the libertines will have a fit.

Would that scenario piss you off, or would you cheer on the pro-abortion liberal cop?

I do not deal in scenarios. The cop is a hero. Considering the preponderance of pro-life, conservative sentiment in the public school industry, I'd say your scenario is not relevant.

Don't bother answering, I already know.

Too late. I support the cop. Since your boys have already brought in the Bolsheviks, I'd say you have worn out hyperbole to a standstill.

"b-b-b-but what if he broke into your house and took pictures...."

[longtermmemmory]

The janitor acted outside his authority. Approved after-hours access is defined in school policies.

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That is between the janitor and the employeer. The invitee is able to rely on the person being allowed in, AND this is enough to shoot down any tresspass charge.

Get over the tresspass IT WILL NOT STICK. Guilty Mind Guilty act. He was let in by permission, you must show he was going to come in no matter what. He knocked, he talked, the tresspass argument fails. Early in my life I have represented defendants on far more serious tresspass charges and won. The beyond a reasonable doubt burden of proof is on the government to prove.

[longtermmemmory]

The burden of proof would be on you to prove that Mott didn't violate 13 VSA 3705.

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NO, as the defendant the burden would be on the state to PROVE the violation did occur, besides I do not believe the statute you cited would be on point. First you have to prove the criminal tresspass which I have discussed would not hold.

[Contra]

What the police officer did was in the great American tradition of "civil disobedience," something that the liberals believe they are only capable of. A liberal would be applauding this act if it were to "expose" a "neoconservative."

[r9etb]

He was let in by permission, you must show he was going to come in no matter what. He knocked, he talked, the tresspass argument fails. Early in my life I have represented defendants on far more serious tresspass charges and won. The beyond a reasonable doubt burden of proof is on the government to prove.

Later in life you apparently cannot even read for comprehension. Mott claims he walked in on his own -- no permission asked or granted. That's an admission of trespassing, as it's defined by Vermont law.

The district claims the janitor let Mott in because he was in uniform -- abuse of authority.

At any rate, Mott was a fool for doing what he did. He had no legitimate business in the school at that time of night.

[Travis McGee]

The silver lining is that the fools are listing themselves for future ref.

[f.Christian]

I like your post (( anarcho-loons )) ...

Hope you don't mind ---

I ... used --- it !

[timestax]

The cop stepped over the line here. If he wasn't on official business, he has no more of a right to be in that building at 1:30 in the morning than anybody else.

Sounds like NO laws were broken, and no rules either, as he was on one of his breaks . He used his own camera, the janitor let him in, so what?! He should be given an award for tipping off the town of the commie, liberal "teacher"!

[dead]

That's exactly what I thought you'd say.

You could have saved the typing.