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CFR Never Should Have Gone This Far (President Bush declines to protect and defend the Constitution)
rushlimbaugh ^ | 5/5/2003 | Rush Llimbaugh

Posted on 05/06/2003 12:08:41 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

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we learned that a three-judge panel had struck down most of the so-called campaign finance reform limits on free speech. Now it's on to the Supreme Court. It appeared that this federal district court in DC had tossed aside McCain-Feingold, but that's not the case.

BUMP

1 posted on 05/06/2003 12:08:41 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
The only reform needed is that only eligible voters can contribute, whatever amount. No unions, corporations, PACs, foreign countries or out of State (district). Voters only with complete immediate accounting of when and how much received and spent by every candidate.
2 posted on 05/06/2003 12:18:21 PM PDT by ex-snook (American jobs need balanced trade - WE BUY FROM YOU, YOU BUY FROM US)
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To: TLBSHOW
"Our Constitution is unique in the history of man because it says what the government can't do, not what the people can do."

Ditto.

Cordially

3 posted on 05/06/2003 12:24:54 PM PDT by Diamond
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To: Fred Mertz
You think we will hear how there is a big plan from the Bush can do no wrong crowd?
4 posted on 05/06/2003 12:25:27 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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To: ex-snook
"The only reform needed is that only eligible voters can contribute, whatever amount. No unions, corporations, PACs, foreign countries or out of State (district). Voters only with complete immediate accounting of when and how much received and spent by every candidate."

Unfortunately, that "reform" is also illegal/unConstitutional. There should be NO restrictions of ANY sort on ANY political campaign contributions. The single allowable proviso should be that any and ALL such contributions MUST BE MADE PUBLIC, giving the name and contact information of the donor(s). If the donation is by an organization, then the membership must also be published.

5 posted on 05/06/2003 12:27:59 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: TLBSHOW
We need to impeach President Bush for this.
6 posted on 05/06/2003 12:29:20 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: TLBSHOW
Seeing that you are still waiting for a reply from NASA about that photo you thought was of the shuttle, I'd set your sights lower.
7 posted on 05/06/2003 12:31:04 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Cyber Liberty
Oh, that's a winner. On what grounds?
8 posted on 05/06/2003 12:32:11 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Because he isn't pure enough for TLB. Duh.
9 posted on 05/06/2003 12:33:26 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: 1rudeboy
Show me the post that I said that.

Stick to the topic its

CFR Never Should Have Gone This Far

as its the President's job is to defend the constitution not trash it. Can you say Veto? I new you could.
10 posted on 05/06/2003 12:35:13 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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To: TLBSHOW
Say, did American Airlines ever deny that the photo of "Tourist Guy" at the WTC was fake?
11 posted on 05/06/2003 12:37:42 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ex-snook
Hey ... that sounds like a good plan. Can't participate in elections if you're not registered to vote!

And ... to make all contributions public - who and the amount.

If those restrictions were imposed ONLY - then I'm not sure a limit on individual spending would be necessary ... but I'm not sure if that would be good or bad.
12 posted on 05/06/2003 12:39:21 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: 1rudeboy
I don't know or care, call them and ask.
13 posted on 05/06/2003 12:39:42 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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To: Common Tator
People with a brain know that the Constitution says whatever the judges say it says.

This is what I'm taking about when I said:

No, people with a brain know that part of the system of checks and balances is for EACH branch of the government to make judgements as to the Constitutionality of the other branch's behavior.

14 posted on 05/06/2003 12:40:33 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: TLBSHOW
I'm sorry, I just figured it was something you'd be worked-up about.
15 posted on 05/06/2003 12:40:56 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: TLBSHOW
Seems to me this bears out what the Bushbots said at the time, that there was no need for Dubya to take a political hit (that Congressional pubbies weren't willing to take, either) by vetoing CFR because the POC would never make it through the courts.
16 posted on 05/06/2003 12:41:21 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: TLBSHOW
As much as I love, respect and believe in this president, he should have vetoed this in a NY second. Given that I cannot know what went into his decision, I can still only conclude that this was a major mistake on his part. Not a principled stand to take.

McCain had backed GWB into a corner and put him in an apparent no-win situation. So the lessor of the two evils was taken punting to the courts to do the right thing.

17 posted on 05/06/2003 12:41:54 PM PDT by el_texicano
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To: TLBSHOW
CFR Never Should Have Gone This Far
as its the President's job is to defend the constitution not trash it. Can you say Veto? I new you could.

Ever heard of politics??? I know it's an ugly business but it is the business of Washington. Every single congressman and senator takes the same oath to uphold the constitution. BUSH wanted the "hard money" limit raised, and it was, to $2000 and indexed. The rest is up to the courts. If 3 judges took up 1700 pages just trying to explain themselves, how much chance do you think BUSH would have with every major media outlet and the majority of congress against him, were he to try and explain a veto. This was the path of least resistance, you and I might have preferred sticking it to the McCainiacs but it wasn't "prudent".

18 posted on 05/06/2003 12:44:21 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: ex-snook
The only reform needed is that only eligible voters can contribute, whatever amount

Two ideas: Term Limits and an end to party politics.

19 posted on 05/06/2003 12:45:10 PM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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To: Cathryn Crawford
PING TO TRUTH

CFR should of been vetoed AND it was the duty of the President to of done that. TO UP HOLD THE CONSTITUTION,
20 posted on 05/06/2003 1:04:28 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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