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Ballistic imaging: Not ready for prime time
Washington Times ^
| Wednesday, May 7, 2003
| H. Sterling Burnett
Posted on 05/06/2003 11:51:47 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
Edited on 07/12/2004 4:03:04 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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In the aftermath of the sniper attacks that plagued the District, Maryland and Virginia in the fall of 2002, Time magazine and television's "60 Minutes" publicized calls for the federal government to develop a "ballistic fingerprint" database. This would require gun manufacturers to test fire new guns, to record the cartridge case and bullet images and to supply the test information to a central agency, such as the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist
To: bang_list
To: JohnHuang2
A nice crisp, clean, forthright damning of the ballistics fingerprints idea. Nice to have it in the FreeRepublic reference banks.
I'll be the first to admit I don't know the whole story, but it -- ballistic fingerprinting -- has never passed the smell test for me.
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posted on
05/07/2003 12:20:18 AM PDT
by
FreeRadical
(GunDealers.com -- Internet for FFL's)
To: JohnHuang2
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posted on
05/07/2003 2:00:18 PM PDT
by
James Mabry
(Zero Tolerance for Marxists must be SOP)
To: Joe Brower
You seem to be the man.
This piece is probably worthy of the reference banks. At least I think that is sort of an objective around here: link stewardship in the name of research and so forth...
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posted on
05/08/2003 12:19:22 AM PDT
by
James Mabry
(GunDealers.com -- Find the FFL you need.)
To: *bang_list; AAABEST; wku man; SLB; Travis McGee; Squantos; harpseal; Shooter 2.5; ...
I am compiling a list of FreeRepublic folks who are interested in RKBA topics. If you want off my ping-list, just let me know.
Conversely, FReepmail me if you want to be added.
And my apologies for any redundant pings.
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posted on
05/08/2003 4:46:18 AM PDT
by
Joe Brower
(http://www.joebrower.com/)
To: JohnHuang2
As we have seen with innumerable government programs, just because it doesn't work is no reason to criticize it.
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posted on
05/08/2003 5:40:27 AM PDT
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
To: JohnHuang2
The article fails to mention that even if the technology were perfect, that it would still be ineffective against many criminals unless all 100,000,000+ pre-existing guns were "printed" by government search of every home and other possible hiding place.
Which would lead to CWII.
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posted on
05/08/2003 5:53:39 AM PDT
by
Atlas Sneezed
(NEO-COMmunistS should be identified as such.)
To: JohnHuang2
Anyone who has ever field striped a .45 knows how fast you can swap the barrel and change the fingerprint.
A matter of seconds . . .
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posted on
05/08/2003 7:11:41 AM PDT
by
Petruchio
(Single, Available, and easy)
To: Blood of Tyrants; Beelzebubba; Joe Brower
The gun grabbers will turn all of B.F.'s negatives into "postitives" (for them).
They will demand all gun be brought in for "retesting" every year, (at your expense) and make it illegal to "alter" the PF in any way without a special license and immediate retesting.
This testing will require your gun to be left at some state agency for a few months while they work through their backlog.
It will be illegal to so much as change a firing pin without jumping through a dozen hoops. If you don't comply, you will be committing a felony.
Their goal is to load this crap with mountains of red tape, any "violation" will of course be a felony and strip a gun owner of his RKBA.
This is exactly the approach New Jersey is taking.
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posted on
05/08/2003 9:41:02 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Travis McGee
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posted on
05/08/2003 9:59:14 AM PDT
by
Joe Brower
(http://www.joebrower.com/)
To: Joe Brower
That's it. You can't reach for a gun if you're wrapped tight in red tape.
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posted on
05/08/2003 10:03:45 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Travis McGee
Eventually, that is exactly where they will go with it. However, to get their foot in the door, they would pass the law to include only new guns or guns being sold by FFL dealers. When the inneffectiveness of it is proven, they will claim that the reason is not because of the inherent problems with it but that the database isn't large enough and then one little change after another will follow until what you predict will happen.
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posted on
05/08/2003 10:11:05 AM PDT
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
To: Blood of Tyrants
You've got it exactly right. They will never admit it's a boneheaded idea, they will just gradually increase the scoope of the law until it's as we've said. And it will be a mega-bureaucracy, meaning lots of pork and new gubbmint jobs, so it will be a sacred cow to the 'rats.
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posted on
05/08/2003 10:13:54 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Travis McGee
What do you mean the Rats? The pubs have proven themselves completely willing to accept past unconstitutional laws and departments once the initial battle is lost in Congress.
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posted on
05/08/2003 10:19:09 AM PDT
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
To: Blood of Tyrants
I only meant the 'rats are drawn more to huge bloated bureaucracies full of 'rat union employees.
The "Department of Ballistic Fingerprinting" could employ ten thousand 'rat slugs in a few years, easily.
But you will still need to wait for months to get your gun back after changing firing pins. If they don't lose it or damage it.
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posted on
05/08/2003 10:23:08 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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