[harpseal]

The big question is will the Supreme Court take this case. that is a very big unknown. Four justices must vote to greant cert. Now perhaps these could be four liberals who wish the Second to go away and think tthey have sufficient votes to accomplish this or perhaps four conservatives who seek to enforce the RKBA. Anyone who says they know what will happen is a liar.

[longtermmemmory]

where will the justice department fall on this. Bush could generate some political capital with this.

[Happy2BMe]

"Now perhaps these could be four liberals who wish the Second to go away and think tthey have sufficient votes to accomplish this or perhaps four conservatives who seek to enforce the RKBA. Anyone who says they know what will happen is a liar."

Regardless of how you shake it or bake it, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals is a major force for liberal change to our fundamental Constitutional rights. They don't appear to have any indication or reason to waver from this course.

The 9th Circus HomePage

UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT
THE JUDGES OF THIS COURT IN ORDER OF SENIORITY:

Mary M. Schroeder	MMS	Chief Judge
James R. Browning	JRB	Senior Circuit Judge
Herbert Y. C. Choy	HYC	Senior Circuit Judge
Alfred T. Goodwin	ATG	Senior Circuit Judge
J. Clifford Wallace	JCW	Senior Circuit Judge
Joseph T. Sneed	JTS	Senior Circuit Judge
Procter Hug, Jr.	PRH	Senior Circuit Judge
Otto R. Skopil	ORS	Senior Circuit Judge
Betty Binns Fletcher	BBF	Senior Circuit Judge
Jerome Farris	JF	Senior Circuit Judge
Harry Pregerson	HP	Circuit Judge
Arthur L. Alarcon	ALA	Senior Circuit Judge
Warren J. Ferguson	WJF	Senior Circuit Judge
Dorothy W. Nelson	DWN	Senior Circuit Judge
William C. Canby, Jr.	WCC	Senior Circuit Judge
Robert Boochever	RB	Senior Circuit Judge
Stephen Reinhardt	SR	Circuit Judge
Robert R. Beezer	RRB	Senior Circuit Judge
Cynthia Holcomb Hall	CHH	Senior Circuit Judge
Melvin Brunetti	MB	Senior Circuit Judge
Alex Kozinski	AK	Circuit Judge
John T. Noonan, Jr.	JTN	Senior Circuit Judge
David R. Thompson	DRT	Senior Circuit Judge
Diarmuid F. O'Scannlain	DFO	Circuit Judge
Edward Leavy	EL	Senior Circuit Judge
Stephen Trott	SST	Circuit Judge
Ferdinand F. Fernandez	FFF	Senior Circuit Judge
Pamela Ann Rymer	PAR	Circuit Judge
Thomas G. Nelson	TGN	Circuit Judge
Andrew J. Kleinfeld	AJK	Circuit Judge
Michael Daly Hawkins	MDH	Circuit Judge
A. Wallace Tashima	AWT	Circuit Judge
Sidney R. Thomas	SRT	Circuit Judge
Barry G. Silverman	BGS	Circuit Judge
Susan P. Graber	SPG	Circuit Judge
M. Margaret McKeown	MMM	Circuit Judge
Kim McLane Wardlaw	KMW	Circuit Judge
William A. Fletcher	WAF	Circuit Judge
Raymond C. Fisher	RCF	Circuit Judge
Ronald M. Gould	RMG	Circuit Judge
Richard A. Paez	RAP	Circuit Judge
Marsha S. Berzon	MSB	Circuit Judge
Richard C. Tallman	RCT	Circuit Judge
Johnnie B. Rawlinson	JBR	Circuit Judge
Richard R. Clifton	RRC	Circuit Judge
Jay S. Bybee	JSB	Circuit Judge

03/28/03

Court of Appeals Master Listing

[El Gato]

Now perhaps these could be four liberals who wish the Second to go away and think tthey have sufficient votes to accomplish this or perhaps four conservatives who seek to enforce the RKBA.

I think this not so much a liberal/conservative issue as it a statist/non-statist one. While liberals tend to be statist on many issues, conservitives tend to be so on some issues. We know about liberals wanting to increase the power of the state to tax, spend and regulate, but some conseratives can get pretty statist when it comes to "law and order" issues.

If the court stoops to hear this case, we will have some interesting times ahead, between the time they agree to do so, and the time decision is issued. Depening on that decision, things could get real "interesting" afterwards too, no matter which way the decision goes.