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What's the real cost of gasoline? You say the government shouldn't be involved in making economic choices -- so, should oil companies field their own armies to protect the oil fields?

As soon as you field your own army to protect your backyard.

You can rant all you want, but if hydrogen was a good idea you wouldn't have to be demanding other people's tax money to promote it. Come on, show us you car and do the cost per mile analysis for gasoline and hydrogen. Look at the different chemical reactions yeilding hydrogen. Look at the price of electricity from various sources. Post it here.

You can rant all you want, but if hydrogen was a good idea you wouldn't have to be demanding other people's tax money to promote it

Who's demanding tax money? As near as I can tell, GM/Daimler/Ford/Honda/Toyota are doing the lion's share of this all on their own. If any tax dollars are going there, it's because they have told the current administration it's a good thing. Why else would you think a guy like Spencer Abraham be talking about it? Because he cares? Right.

Come on, show us you car and do the cost per mile analysis for gasoline and hydrogen. Look at the different chemical reactions yeilding hydrogen. Look at the price of electricity from various sources

Do it yourself, junior. Then YOU post it. The information is at your fingertips (www.google.com). My point has been that the system possibilities haven't been explored yet, and that conclusions based on prejudice or political opinions are premature. I assume that the automobile companies HAVE done the analysis.

You have told us that no government money went into the development of computers. Oh please. Even ignoring the front end money in WWII, and the avalanche of money spent in the '50s and 60's, you'd still find that simply being an anchor customer for companies like SUN has dramatically influenced reasearch. It wasn't all done "because it was the best solution for the money". It was "we have to help the companies". You're simply making up nonsense to support your asssertions.

"You can rant all you want, but if hydrogen was a good idea you wouldn't have to be demanding other people's tax money to promote it. Come on, show us you car and do the cost per mile analysis for gasoline and hydrogen. Look at the different chemical reactions yeilding hydrogen. Look at the price of electricity from various sources. Post it here."

Great answer!

I did some detailed study on hydrogen vs. gasoline when I was looking at Millenium Cell and other FC companies. I couldnt get under a 2-3X cost factor. Not even accounting for the difficulties of storing hydrogen in the car itself. Billion$ in research wont change the basic nature of H2.