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Where are they, Mr. President? (Buchanan about no WMD found so far in Iraq)
WorldNetDaily ^ | Patrick J Buchanan

Posted on 05/07/2003 7:15:56 PM PDT by FairOpinion

After each war, historians sift through the record to discern its real causes. Invariably, they divide into two camps: the court historians who defend the war leaders and the revisionists who prosecute them before the bar of history.

After World War II, the evidence that FDR had steered us into war, while asserting he was doing his best to avert war, was so massive even his court historians admit he lied. Wrote Thomas A. Bailey in FDR's defense, "He was like the physician who must tell the patient lies for his own good."

Roosevelt had cut off Japan's oil, sent the Flying Tigers to China and sought to tempt Japan into attacking a line of picket ships. He had lied about German subs torpedoing U.S. destroyers and Nazi plans to conquer South America and replace the Christian cross with the swastika. This mattered in 1950. For, with Stalin triumphant in Europe and China, it appeared – in Churchill's phrase – that we "had killed the wrong pig."

But today, with the immense focus on the Holocaust, the question is no longer, "Did FDR lie?" But, "Why did we not declare war sooner?"

Vietnam was, in Reagan's phrase, "a noble cause." But because it was a lost cause, it is now said and believed we only went to war because LBJ had misled us about the Tonkin Gulf incident.

The war in Iraq is being portrayed by the president's men as a just and necessary war that removed a mortal peril. But if our victory turns to ashes in our mouths, and we discover that we have inherited our own West Bank in Mesopotamia, the White House will have to explain again why we went there.

In his speech from the deck of the Abraham Lincoln, President Bush told the nation, "With those attacks (of 9-11), the terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States. And war is what they got" – i.e., the invasion of Iraq was payback for the killers of Sept. 11.

But is this the truth? For this war on Iraq was not sold to the nation as retribution for 9-11. Indeed, the ties between Iraqi intelligence and the al-Qaida killers turned out to be bogus War Party propaganda.

We were told, rather, that Saddam had gas and germ weapons and was working on nuclear weapons. And once he had them, he would use them on us, or give them to Osama. "Do you want to wait for a nuclear 9-11?" Americans were asked.

Trusting the president, believing that he had information we did not, a majority of Americans approved of pre-emptive war. But where, now, are the thousands of artillery warheads and terror weapons the president and secretary of state told us Saddam had?

We have scoured Iraq for a month. No Scuds have been found. No chemical or biological weapons. No laboratories or production lines. No evidence that Iraq was building nukes or seeking fissile material.

"Every statement I make today is backed up by ... solid sources," Colin Powell told the United Nations. But since then, his case has crumbled. Were he a district attorney, Colin Powell would be under investigation today for prosecutorial incompetence or possible fraud. One British document he relied on turned out to be a 10-year-old term paper by a graduate student. The documents from Niger proving Iraq was seeking "yellowcake" for nuclear bombs turned out to be forgeries – and crude ones at that.

Who forged them? Why have we not been told? Does the secretary who put his integrity on the line not want to know?

If our occupation of Iraq turns sour and U.S. troops are being shot in the back, a year from now, Americans are going to demand to know. And President Bush could face the charge thrown up in the face of FDR by Clare Boothe Luce, that he "lied us into war."

Both the president and Powell are honorable men. If they misled us, surely it is because they themselves were misled. It is impossible to believe either man would deliberately state as fact what he knew to be false. But the president must find these weapons – or find the men who told him, with such certitude, that Iraq had them.

For there is something strange here. If Saddam had these weapons, why did he not surrender them to save himself? If he did not give them up because he intended to use them on us, why did he not use them on us? And if they were destroyed before the war, why did he not simply show us where, and thereby save himself, his family and his regime?

Last fall, Congress abdicated, surrendered its war-making power to a president who demanded that Congress yield it up. If Congress wishes to redeem itself, it should unearth the truth about why we went to war. Was the official explanation the truth, or was it political cover for an American imperial war?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: buchanan; destruction; finos; iraq; israel; mass; patbuchanan; patrickjbuchanan; patwasright; pitchforkpat; randsconcerntrolls; waronterror; weapons; wmd
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To: Redleg Duke
LOL!
21 posted on 05/07/2003 7:30:51 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Pat Buchanan bump.
22 posted on 05/07/2003 7:31:13 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: FairOpinion
Many years ago I thought Buchanan was good on some issues. Although, I always found him unsuitable for the Presidency for many reasons, not the least of which was because he'd never held any elected office.

But he's getting loopier by the word, and he is as hard on the eyes as a person can be. Although he's a pretty smart guy, he thinks he's smarter and better than he really is. Way too much ego, and not enough common sense.

23 posted on 05/07/2003 7:31:24 PM PDT by AlbionGirl (A kite flies highest against the wind, not with it. - Winston Churchill)
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To: doug from upland
Suffice it to say, YOU have grown as a person, while Pat has regressed.
24 posted on 05/07/2003 7:31:37 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: FairOpinion
Dear Pat,
What if we never find WMDs? You want that we should put Saddam Hussein back in power?
Love,
Tex
25 posted on 05/07/2003 7:32:06 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: quidnunc
We voted him OFF the party!
26 posted on 05/07/2003 7:32:11 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: CWOJackson

Wild Pat... Walkin' Tall

Ho hum............
27 posted on 05/07/2003 7:32:28 PM PDT by deport (Beware of Idiots bearing gifts.... One maybe the FR Joke)
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
AMEN !!! At the rate he's going, he may be better off "outside" the country too.

Maybe he should go to France. He's anti-Israel, pro-saddam, and his articles are just about as funny as a Jerry Lewis movie.

He'd probably be welcomed with open arms.

28 posted on 05/07/2003 7:32:42 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Alberta's Child
if Bill Clinton had pursued military action against Iraq on the basis of Iraq's "weapons of mass destruction program," there would be a lot of people here on FR demanding an answer when these weapons were never found.

Not if there had been a 9-11.

29 posted on 05/07/2003 7:33:23 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Steve Eisenberg
"he will have to say, yes, I was wrong about Bush and Powell being honorable men."
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But for him to imply now that they aren't, is disgraceful -- for Buchanan.
30 posted on 05/07/2003 7:33:56 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Howlin
Has anybody besides me noticed that it's those outside the loop -- Newt, Pat, Dobson, etc. -- who are writing all this crap?

Yep.......all men, clearly envious of the amazingly positive and commanding image of George Bush that pleased many, many people.

........and to think they call women "catty".

31 posted on 05/07/2003 7:33:58 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis (Trying hard to make it to the top spot on Tagbad Todd's "Top Ten List" -Taggie's a liar)
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To: Dane
He'd probably be welcomed with open arms.

LOL.......and a bottle of their best non-selling champagne. ; *)

32 posted on 05/07/2003 7:35:27 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis (Trying hard to make it to the top spot on Tagbad Todd's "Top Ten List" -Taggie's a liar)
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis; Howlin
Has anybody besides me noticed that it's those outside the loop -- Newt, Pat, Dobson, etc. -- who are writing all this crap?


Don't forget that ol' boy from the FL swamps......... Chuck something or other.
33 posted on 05/07/2003 7:35:33 PM PDT by deport (Beware of Idiots bearing gifts.... One maybe the FR Joke)
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To: Howlin
Don't put Newt in the same category.

Newt, while critical, he was careful not to criticize Bush, OR Powell, specifically tried to discuss the problems at State as non-personality related, and brought up that he, Newt commissioned the Hart-Rudman report, which had the same recommendations about the State Dept.

Buchanan, on the other hand is basically calling Bush a liar, because here we are a few weeks after the war and we didn't serve up some WMD on a silver platter to Pat.
34 posted on 05/07/2003 7:37:25 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: AlbionGirl
I personally feel he is just using his position to take advantage of the Libertarians. This guy raked in millions while he was destroying that party. His whole family was on the payroll and probably his dog if he could of pulled it off.

I don't think he ever had any intensions of making a real to run for the presidency. I truly believe he has become a fraud. he knows he doesn't have a sowballs chance in hell of becoming the President and exploits those who are foolish enough to send him campaign donations. Harry Browne is no different. The two of them only take one view on the issues......... THE NEGATIVE ONE

35 posted on 05/07/2003 7:37:44 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Freedom is Ringing)
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To: FairOpinion
Who lied to the President and Powell. I know... must have been the JOOOOOOOOOOOOS.

Pat Buchanan, have a quarter, call somebody who gives a crap.

36 posted on 05/07/2003 7:38:09 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: Howlin
Maybe somebody should tell Pat about that poll taken a few weeks ago stating that 75% of the American public still supported the war even if there were NO WMD.
Apparently he missed it.
37 posted on 05/07/2003 7:38:16 PM PDT by truthkeeper
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To: deport
Patrick J Buchanan

What does the J stand for?
38 posted on 05/07/2003 7:38:34 PM PDT by woofie
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To: woofie
Ummm...two syllables, rights?
39 posted on 05/07/2003 7:39:35 PM PDT by truthkeeper
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To: Howlin
Yes, I have, and that is why Mrs. DFU has put me on a diet. :)
40 posted on 05/07/2003 7:40:29 PM PDT by doug from upland (my dogs ran from the room when they heard Hillary shrieking on the radio)
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