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To: Ten Megaton Solution
Yes, this statement is clearly true. Everybody has brown skin and blue eyes, red hair and is six feet eight inches tall.

No, that does not apply in this case. Animal instincts, unlike human action, are innate in the species. This is not the case with human behavior. Humans are different from animals in numerous ways. They are not driven by their material nature, but by their will, their mind, their thoughts, their reason, their logic. All of which things are totally lacking in the beasts.

the well proven point that the will to live leads to longer life.-me-

Yes, suicide tends to shorten the life span, agreed.

No I am not talking about suicide, and you know it. I am speaking of the willingness to live. The desire to live is one of the strongest forces in the recovery of an individual that is ill as any doctor will tell you. In other words, the will to survive affects very deeply the material portion of an individual and thus proves that matter is not all that atheists claim it to be - the be all and end all of existence.

1,326 posted on 05/13/2003 6:28:41 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: gore3000
Animal instincts, unlike human action, are innate in the species.

Got any clues on how they become "innate"? You're not pretending humans lack instincts, are you? Worse, you don't believe something as silly as that, do you?

Humans are different from animals in numerous ways.

No. Other animals are different from the human animal. That's why they're not the same species.

[Humans] are not driven by their material nature,

Tell that to Bill Gates, okay? Or Bill Clinton.

but by their will, their mind, their thoughts, their reason, their logic.

Hmmmm...Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao See Dung, Stalin and Lenin and Kruschev, Castro, all the millions of their followers, Jeffrey Dahmer, Pope Alexander II (?), pedophile priests, 19 lunatic Muslims on four airplanes, any fool that voted for Gore (we pause to give thanks to those incredibly intelligent people in Floriduh that voted for Ralph Nader in 2000). The list is as long as the human population of the planet. Everyone uses what they possess of skill will logic reason creativity guile and personality to establish material things. At a minimum, they have to eat and drink every day.

1,358 posted on 05/14/2003 12:45:02 AM PDT by Ten Megaton Solution
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