Germany Falling: Berlin lives in the past. Welfare is generous, and the nation is going bankrupt
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1) The bill passed the committe on a straight party line vote.
2) The California Senate is populated by a group of ultraliberal ideologs that survive because of the 1998 redistricting plan. These ideologs do not respresent the median values of even democrats and are insulated from election pressure by the tortured, gerrymandered districts created in 1998 in allow just such nonsense.
3) The "unisured" in California have a full range of health care available to them through the well developed and politically perverted clinic and emergency room concepts.
4) Last but not least. This "universal" healthcare is simply a ploy to shift the escalating cost of the health care system from the taxpayer to the employer. This plan will remove these skyrocking costs form the budget but these costs won't go away. They simply will not be treated as a budget item.
"If you think medical care is expensive now-
-just wait 'til it's free..."
Removing the tax element reduces the number of votes required to pass it out of the Senate. She said she expects the going to get tough in the Assembly when she reinserts the taxing portion and it becomes a bill that requires at least some Republican votes.
The State is bankrupt. So they mandate universal healthcare with nothing to pay for it. They have no idea what it will cost and would lie even if they knew. So they pass the expense without funding it so that they won't need a supermajority! I bet that means they think they can get it through conference committee with funding provisions and then pass it with the same majority as if it was the same bill! Whaddya bet?
I see.
Does this woman have a credit card?
The Senate health committee Wednesday also passed a less ambitious measure that would force employers to either provide health coverage to their workers or pay into a state fund that would do so on their behalf.
I've never heard fiscal suicide referred to as "less ambitious."
The bill received similar support from union and health-care advocacy groups and drew similar opposition from the business community.
Oh for a veto now. Perhaps businesses are reconsidering their support for Davis? Do you think maybe yet?
Though it would not provide health care to unemployed Californians, as is the case with the universal plan, backers say it could reduce by one-third the number of uninsured Californians.
The unemployed already have MediCal. So I guess this is a way to ding those businesses that don't insure their workers by making them pony up payroll taxes. Um, aren't those employees the ones who don't pay taxes? Ohhhhh... This a tax on the POOR!
The Slave Party strikes again.
There are an estimated 7 million people without health insurance in California. About 150,000 of them live in San Joaquin County. Nearly 80 percent of the nation's uninsured have jobs.
The laws of economics state that when you penalize something you get less of it. And what's this mixing of State, county, and National data all in one paragraph?
Yup, I remember well how so many around here are willing to let the State implode thinking they'll be around to pick up the pieces. Are they going to stick around for State-mandated healthcare?
What pieces? There won't be any left!
Yup, I remember well how so many around here were willing to sit out the last election because Simon wasn't good enough for them. I wonder if they're still thinking that, or perhaps wish he was there to have a veto pen ready for this kind of stupidity? Is anybody dumb enough to think that, even if the state collapsed financially, it would be easy to undo a bill like this?
The Stupid Party really underestimated how bad things could get in only two more years because we've had Republican governors in place for so long who would veto crap like this and Davis needed to get re-elected. They didn't have a clue how far the leftists would go once there was no restraint. There's even sincere talk in the media of California seceding so that they can print money to finance the debt!
To be taken over by... whom?
So, how many people are laughing about Simon now? We'll see if they're still laughing when they're sitting in a waiting room to see a doctor with other patients coughing chunks from SARS.
Betcha we won't see any Democratic senators standing in line with us at the 'free' clinics, eh? They'll likely be 'allowed' to keep their own private health care.
There's no such thing. It's TAXPAYER financed.
Sick sick sick .. barf barf barf ..
I took 2 years of German.. I'm ready! bier bier bier ;-)