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Eminem Bars 'Weird Al' Parody Video
WashingtonPost.Com ^ | Saturday, May 10, 2003; 7:53 AM | By NEKESA MUMBI MOODY The Associated Press

Posted on 05/10/2003 10:55:11 AM PDT by Bobby777

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To: Bobby777
Weird Al Yankovic peaked with 'Amish Paradise' there is no way he could top that.
21 posted on 05/10/2003 11:49:31 AM PDT by ewing
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To: Bobby777
As a "Close Personal Friend of Weird Al", I will second that.

FREE WEIRD AL!
22 posted on 05/10/2003 11:50:48 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I'm happy, yet I'm aware of the ironic ramifications of my happiness.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
All things being equal, I'd pit Name of the Game against anything Mozart ever wrote.......

All "hip-hop" is at BEST street poetry analagous to the bongo-banging stuff by the 1950's beatniks

MOST "hip-hop" is simply "kill whitey."

"hip hop" or "rap" and "music" should never be used in the same sentence. It is easy to sit around and compose rhyming poems. To put that to music that has MELODY takes talent.

Music execs have been bemoaning the fact that today's music has no shelf life. It's because it is only angry lyrics that can't be overlooked tomorrows, since the words are the totality of the composition.

To suggest that anything that this terrible culture is even remotely even the same art form of Mozart is hubris of the highest form by and for "art" of the lowest form.

A child of 5 could create "great rap."

23 posted on 05/10/2003 11:52:19 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: ewing
That's my favorite, too. (I love a great "Beard Band".)


24 posted on 05/10/2003 11:52:53 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I'm happy, yet I'm aware of the ironic ramifications of my happiness.)
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To: GSWarrior
On and on it goes. Talent is in the eye of the beholder.

The difference is that "music" was at least musical.

You would think if we were able to kill Disco, we could kill rap. But it takes talent even to make disco. To make rap just takes an attitude.

25 posted on 05/10/2003 11:54:15 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Now, I have CD"s by FBS and CM (Vegas)..I think I would catagorize them diffently..More along the lines of house, techno, acid or the like with some hip-hop sampled over lush textures. But labels can get tricky I guess-by my own admission.

I just think the freesytle talking thing over simplistic beats type hip-hop, masquerading as some type of musical form is a ludcris ;) proposition. The closest it comes to anything Mozart ever did was possibly his flatulating. It is perfomance art at best and given much too much credibility by industry types and those who make a living writing about such things. Maybe art as comedy or something. I have to admit, I found some of the Buster Ryhmes video stuff hard to turn away from..

Then again people were saying the same thing about Jazz the blue and the beatles at one point or another. So what do I know. Just MHO...
26 posted on 05/10/2003 11:59:32 AM PDT by 101st-Eagle
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To: 101st-Eagle
Busta Rhymes does have a compelling stage presence.
27 posted on 05/10/2003 12:02:52 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Bobby777

Weird Al Yankovic, shown portraying the rapper Eminem in this recent photo, won't receive permission from the rapper to shoot a video for his new song, ``Couch Potato,'' a parody of the rapper's Oscar-winning tune ``Lose Yourself,'' Yankovic said. ``The only reason I could glean was that making a Weird Al music video would detract from his legacy as a serious hip-hop artist,'' Yankovic said Thursday, May 8, 2003. ``It's very disappointing. This could have been my best video ever.''

28 posted on 05/10/2003 12:02:58 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: Bobby777
Slim Shady bump!
29 posted on 05/10/2003 12:07:29 PM PDT by Fraulein
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To: freedumb2003
I don't work in the music industry, but it seems that the popular music, in the case of rap, is/has been stripped down to its most basic elements--rhythm and beat. What is missing from rap and most of the other pap that is on the Top 40 is actual craftsmanship. It's all product.
30 posted on 05/10/2003 12:16:35 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: freedumb2003
To suggest that anything that this terrible culture is even remotely even the same art form of Mozart is hubris of the highest form by and for "art" of the lowest form.

Ya.  

Say, does any part of your house look like this?  Because I'm sitting in that chair as I type.  I'm one of those whack-jobs you may or may not have ever met that actually owns Walter Piston's three books: Counterpoint, Harmony and Orchestration.  I own them because they were required reading for Composition Majors at the Interlochen Arts Academy.  Not the camp mind you, the academy.  

The basis of my acceptance there was a piano sonata I wrote in 8th grade.

I never had the chance to screw off in P.E. like most people in Public High School because, at Interlochen, the first two hours of the day is orchestra rehearsal, in which I played second bassoon even though my Minor was piano.  

As you may well imagine, I've studied and played my share of Mozart.

So, I'm curious about the musical basis of your opinion.  While you're writing it, I'll get back to working on the first movement of my 2nd Piano Concerto......

32 posted on 05/10/2003 12:28:30 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: freedumb2003
Actually there are artisitc rappers, but since De La Soul left the scene Hip hop/rap has just gone into the crapper.
33 posted on 05/10/2003 12:36:56 PM PDT by ewing
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To: BunnySlippers
That pic is hilarious.
34 posted on 05/10/2003 12:38:23 PM PDT by ewing
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To: Chad Fairbanks
A music parody guy ping.
35 posted on 05/10/2003 12:55:25 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I'm happy, yet I'm aware of the ironic ramifications of my happiness.)
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To: Bobby777
Eminem is a pretentious jackass.

Weird Al is the same age as me. I remember listening to Dr. Demento's radio show in high school, and Weird Al would send in homemade tapes of song parodies. The one I remember best was Rockin' The Snackbar(Rockin' The Casbah).

His Amish Paradise video was one of his best :)

Is he married?
36 posted on 05/10/2003 1:30:31 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
So, I'm curious about the musical basis of your opinion. While you're writing it, I'll get back to working on the first movement of my 2nd Piano Concerto......

So, only musical elitists can have opinions about music?

Your suggestion that your quals somehow redeem Rap is specious at best.

Although I do not share your child-prodify status, I played orchestra and was a music minor through college. I have played trumpet, french horn, flute and keyboard (it never occurred to me to snapshot my keyboard setup) for 30 years. That included 6 years of music theory and all the rest.

Rap=Poetry at best.

You defend rap because it is the only "music" of your generation. It sucks to suck, huh?

37 posted on 05/10/2003 1:42:35 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: Wondervixen
Hey, that's not completely fair.

I "liked" Who's That Girl. It was her best starring effort since she was trying to reprise a Judy Holiday screwball blonde comedy. The supporting cast made the movie worth viewing.

There's not accounting for taste :-). Otherwise her acting sips wind...

dvwjr

38 posted on 05/10/2003 2:06:30 PM PDT by dvwjr
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To: freedumb2003
So, only musical elitists can have opinions about music?

Huh?  How does open-mindedness about the musical value inherent in skillful examples from every style of music qualify me as an "elitist"?  You're the one who's "throwing out the music with the culture."

And, once more, you're wallowing in fallacies of secundum quid: I never addressed the "culture" of Rap or Hip-Hop.  I think the culture of Rap is basically disgusting, useless and inherently dangerous....but were I to allow 'culture' to interfere with my love of music, I wouldn't find any value in the works of racists pricks like Wagner....or Nihilist-Worshiping pie-in-the-sky romanticists like Richard Strauss.

So, I say again, what is the musical basis for your rejection of my initial statement?  Or are you only capable of ignoring my actual premise and throwing ad hominem attacks at points I never made?

39 posted on 05/10/2003 2:10:50 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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40 posted on 05/10/2003 2:12:12 PM PDT by ewing
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