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1 posted on 05/13/2003 3:01:16 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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"Senate Democrats want to renew the current ban with only one change..."

LIARS!

2 posted on 05/13/2003 3:23:16 PM PDT by wcbtinman (The first one is expensive, all the rest are free.)
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Can we send our guys to a Holiday Inn in OK ?
3 posted on 05/13/2003 3:23:49 PM PDT by RS (nc)
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DeLay's opposition to the ban puts him at odds with President Bush, who wants it to be extended although he generally opposes the expansion of gun laws.

Good cop / bad cop?

7 posted on 05/13/2003 3:29:25 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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assault gun ban is (dead on arrival)
9 posted on 05/13/2003 3:31:32 PM PDT by green team 1999
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One possible scenario really has me perturbed: The bastards allow the law to sunset in September 2004; they then come back right after the November 2004 election and simply pass another ban. I'll bet that this is the way it will play out; that way, George W. Bush gets re-elected, the Repubos can cave, and no one will have to pay the price for once again screwing the citizenry out of the RKBA. And we can expect no help from the courts..
11 posted on 05/13/2003 3:32:15 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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Please excuse my ignorance, but what EXACTLY is an assault weapon??
12 posted on 05/13/2003 3:32:18 PM PDT by BonnieJ
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Filibuster works both ways right?? No judges, no signature!
13 posted on 05/13/2003 3:33:33 PM PDT by Normal4me
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Let the democrats delay the lawsuit bill, we'll just vote them out with the rest of the trash come next january.
15 posted on 05/13/2003 3:36:02 PM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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Ohhhh.. I don't know about that.

Somehow I can't imagine Dubya writing nasty things on DeLay's lawn in kerosine or anything just because the bill that will alienate his base and forever brand him as a 2A sellout never makes it to his desk.

In fact, I can imagine a phone call to the effect of:

Dubya: "Hey, Tom.. Thanks man, you saved me allot of grief on that assault weapons thing. You took lightning rod duty on that one and I want you to know that I appreciate it."

DeLay: "No problem.. happy to do it. Hey, don't forget to let me know how the consolation call to Di-fi goes."

Dubya: "LOL! Yeah, that one should earn me an oscar for sure! (begin mocking tone)'Well Di-Fi, you know I did the best I could for you dear' LOL! LOL! See ya Tom, have a good evening man."

DeLay: "LOL! Yeah, that'll be a classic.. And you too George, regards to Laura. Night. "

26 posted on 05/13/2003 3:54:25 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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The ban, approved during the Clinton administration, applies to military-style semi-automatic assault weapons like the Uzi and the AK-47 that have high ammunition capacity and are capable of rapid fire at close range.

In other words they're machineguns...except they are not.

The ban itself is a piece of propaganda and it has to go.

38 posted on 05/13/2003 4:04:02 PM PDT by PuNcH
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applies to military-style semi-automatic assault weapons like the Uzi and the AK-47 that have high ammunition capacity and are capable of rapid fire at close range.

A factually false statement by a journalist. Not a big surprise on this issue.

The Uzi and AK-47 are both fully-automatic, thus they are true assault weapons.

Semi-automatic rifles, by definition, are not assault weapons.

This blurring of the distinction between the two was used to foment the semi-auto ban in the first place.

As well as the argument that these weapons have no legitimate hunting use. Well, the Second Amendment ain't about hunting.

In any event, it remains legal to own machine guns in the United States, although a few hoops must be jumped through.

Semi-automatic weapons should never have been demonized like this, and if a semi-auto ban ever sticks under USSC scrutiny, then the Second Amendment is dead anyway (disregarding the full-auto debate for the moment.)

42 posted on 05/13/2003 4:07:50 PM PDT by sargon
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"The House Republicans are so out of touch that they are to the right of even President Bush on guns. Most Americans want fewer assault weapons on the streets, but the House Republicans want to bring banned assault weapons back," said New Jersey Democrat Sen. Frank Lautenberg.

Last I checked our form of government is a republic not a democracy. A large proportion of gun control advocates are concentrated into a few congressional districts. I think the House Republicans accurately reflect the thinking in their districts.

58 posted on 05/13/2003 4:37:33 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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Bush would do well for himself to just STHU on the issue and now pray it doesn't get to his desk...
89 posted on 05/13/2003 5:03:53 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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We'll see. I like Tom DeLay and I'd vote for him without a problem. I'm not worried about HIS vote.

Here's the problem though. The SINate Democraps are stopping the gun lawsuit ban. That could leave a bargaining chip open. Then there is Lautenberg's infamous Midnight specials. Columbine II could happen too, and DeLay may be steamrolled.

There's always a snake in the grass there somewhere. We just have to watch for it.

98 posted on 05/13/2003 5:47:58 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("You are fined one credit for a violation of the verbal morality statute." - Demolition Man)
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