[FITZ]

I think we have enough people --- however we do immigration we need to make sure they're only coming for jobs that we actually need them for --- there's a lot of Americans out of work, our inner cities are a mess and we need jobs if we ever want them employed. Too many jobs are leaving the US for us to be worrying about bringing in a bunch of people in ---no matter who they are.

[dennisw]

I agree but on general principles we should have more Europen immigration as long as we're going to have immigration. There are millions of worthy East Europeans who would love to immigrate.

[liberalnot]

on the surface, i'd agree with you.

but thinking a moment about it, do you really expect that the folks in south central (excuse me, south) los angeles etc are going to flip burgers? not.

it's not going to happen.

there are some black kids working in los angeles area restaurants, as well as white, but predominately mexicans out number everyone.

today, i had lunch in temecula at a carl's jr. i noticed a sign on the wall advertising for help:

> general mgr., $30-45,000 / yr.
> restaurant mgr., $28-35,000 / yr.
> shift leader, $8-10.75 / hr.
> crew, $6.75-8.50 / hr.