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Six out of 10 Americans Say Homosexual Relations Should Be Recognized as Legal
GALLUP NEWS SERVICE ^ | May 15, 2003 | Frank Newport

Posted on 05/15/2003 12:16:22 PM PDT by Remedy

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To: Belial
Bug Chasers by Daniel Hill

AIDS Bug Chasers

Traditional Values Coalition

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QUOTE: Gay Columnist: Don’t Dismiss ‘Bug Chasing’ Story 2/5/2003

"Personally, I don't think [Rolling Stone writer Gregory] Freeman's story [that 25 percent of new HIV infections result from "bug-chasing" homosexual men who want to get the virus] has completely fallen apart, nor I do think the entire piece should be dismissed. While the 25 percent figure is clearly [bull----], the barebacking [condomless anal sex] websites Freeman writes about are real, and some men with HIV are only too willing to engage in unprotected sex with guys who aren't HIV-positive. And before gay men congratulate themselves for "only" making up 42 percent of all new HIV infections, consider this: Gay and bisexual men make up only 3 percent of the population. Regardless of how gay men are getting the virus — bug chasing? stupid risk taking? -- gay men are getting infected at appalling rates."

Excerpted from column by weekly syndicated sex advice columnist (and homosexual activst) Dan Savage, "Bug Chasers," January 30, 2003.

61 posted on 05/15/2003 1:36:46 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: OldFriend
Seattle probably
62 posted on 05/15/2003 1:38:25 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody got a peanut.....)
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To: Tempest

I can't even figure out why it's even considered criminal???
Texas Phys.Resource Council, Christian Med. & Dental Association, Catholic Med.Association

Even worse than the concerns about syphilis itself is the threat of HIV as the result of syphilis infections. One of the consequences of a high prevalence of syphilis and other STDs in men who have sex with men is that "STDs, and the behaviors associated with them, increase the likelihood of acquiring and transmitting HIV infection . . . ." CDC, Sexually Transmitted Disease Surveillance 2001 at 65 (Special Focus Profile, "STDs Among Men Who Have Sex with Men"). In regard to syphilis, the "lesions increase risk of HIV transmission between two and five times . . ." CDC Press Release, Overall Syphilis Rate Rises for First Time Since 1990 . Indeed, in Chicago, "[u]p to 70 percent of gay and bisexual men infected in recent outbreaks have tested positive for HIV . . . ." Greenfield, Syphilis Out- break Raises HIV Fears . Therefore, the increases in syphilis infections among men who have sex with men is no minor health concern.

"With the emergence of AIDS and identification of HIV, unprotected anal intercourse was reported to be the most efficient mode of sexual transmission of HIV infection." Anne M. Rompalo, M.D., Diagnosis and Treatment of Sexually Acquired Proctitis and Proctocolitis: An Update , 28 Clinical Infectious Diseases Suppl. 1, S84, S84 (1999); see also Goldstone, I NNS AND O UTS at 16 ("an anus is the highest-risk place for STDs"). That is particularly problematic for men who have sex with men, for a survey of 5,000 homosexual men in 4 metropolitan areas found that "over 80% had engaged in receptive anal intercourse with at least some of their partners in the previous two years." R.A. Kaslow, et al., The Multicenter AIDS Cohort Study: Rationale, Organization and Selected Characteristics of the Participants , 126 American J. of Epidemiology No. 2, 310 (1987). Despite the small number of men who have sex with men ( supra note 12), the CDC has reported that "[r]esearchers estimate that men who have sex with men (MSM) still account for 42 percent of new HIV infections annually in the United States and for 60 percent of all new HIV infections among men." Tracking the Hidden Epidemics at 4. But these percentages are likely significantly underestimated for several reasons. First, they do not appear to include the number of men in the risk category of men who inject drugs and have sex with men. Second, the risk category has not been identified in nearly a third of cases reported to the CDC of HIV in men, and in 2001 the risk category was not identified for 51% of new cases of HIV in men. CDC, U.S. HIV and AIDS Cases Reported Through December 2001 , Year- end edition Vol. 13, No. 2, Table 6. 19 Perhaps more import- antly, a recent CDC study found that most HIV-infected men who have sex with men do not know they have HIV :

More than three-fourths of young gay and bisexual men infected with HIV were unaware of their statusinclud- ing 91 percent of African-American MSMand may have unknowingly transmitted the virus to their part- ners, according to a study led by CDC's Duncan Mc- Kellar. Researchers surveyed 5,719 MSM between the ages of 15 and 29 in six major U.S. cities, of whom 573 tested positive for HIV; 440 men (77 percent) were una- ware of their infection. . . . Of the 440 men who were unaware of their infection, 59 percent perceived them- selves to be at low or very low risk of being infected. 20

CDC Press Release, New CDC Studies Shed Light on Factors Underlying High HIV Infection Rates Among Gay and Bisexual Men , 2-3, CDC Office of Communication (July 10, 2002). 21 In another study reported in the same Press Release, "researchers found the rate of new HIV infections among men who have sex with men (MSM) to be nine times higher than among women and heterosexual men." Id . at 1 (emphasis added).

Men who have sex with men may be responsible for a significant amount of heterosexual transmission of HIV as well, for nearly 41 percent of women with AIDS acquired it from men. CDC, Basic Statistics , Division of HIV/AIDS Preven- tion. 22 It is unlikely that many American men acquire HIV from women because HIV is not easily transmitted from females to males. See Bruce Voeller, Ph.D., AIDS and Heterosexual Anal Intercourse , 20 Archives of Sexual Behavior No. 3, 233, 264 (1991) ("female partners infected anally (or any other way) are much less likely to communicate HIV sexually to their partners than are anal-receptive homosexual or bisexual males . . . Western females tend to be terminators in infectivity chains") (emphasis original). 23 Thus, many of the men who infect females are likely to have acquired HIV/AIDS by having sex with men. See id . at 237 (noting risk from bisexual men).

63 posted on 05/15/2003 1:40:11 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; livius; ...
Ping.
64 posted on 05/15/2003 1:45:58 PM PDT by narses (Christe Eleison)
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To: Jumper

Conservatives must take the battle to the Left and wear them down for a change. Only then will the Left "get along" with the Right.

SODOMY : Santorum Crisis Exposes Republican Weakness

65 posted on 05/15/2003 1:47:53 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: rs79bm
Because unless your name is "El Staino" Billy Jeff Clinton, most men aren't interested in a life-long diet of BJs. Unless of course you haven't tried hetro-male/female intercourse.
66 posted on 05/15/2003 1:53:12 PM PDT by DeathfromBelow
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To: ethical
Finally, an 'ethical' rationale for BJs.

;^)
67 posted on 05/15/2003 1:55:35 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Lizavetta
Remember when the legalization of abortion was for 'the very poorest of women', 'the most desperate situations', etc.?

Yup, incrementalism is a classic tactic of liberalism. In fact, it's safe to say they've taken over the nation with it. I remember when the anti-smoking movement first got rolling, with a smoking ban on U.S. flights under two hours. Why, if you didn't go along with something reasonable like that, you were some kind of extremist! One little step at a time. And at EACH of these steps, no matter what the particular issue is, the bulk of conservatives sit back and let it happen, for fear of being branded a kook or a bigot or a whateverphobe. Through tiny steps by the enemy, we have lost our nation.

MM

68 posted on 05/15/2003 1:56:27 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: Freebird Forever
Yeah -- they selected that 1005 from the 10,000 ones that answered the "wrong" way. :>)
69 posted on 05/15/2003 1:58:55 PM PDT by steplock ( http://www.spadata.com)
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To: drjimmy

 

I take it then, that you have never had a BJ (from a woman), since supporting that biological activity, which if practiced by everyone, would mean the END OF THE HUMAN RACE.

Texas Phys.Resource Council, Christian Med. & Dental Association, Catholic Med.Association

Oral sex also results in the spread of HIV/AIDS and other STDs. According to the CDC, HIV, "[h]erpes, syphilis, gonor- rhea, genital warts (HPV), intestinal parasites (amebiasis), and hepatitis A are examples of STDs which can be transmitted during oral sex with an infected partner." CDC, Preventing the Sexual Transmission of HIV, the Virus that Causes AIDS: What You Should Know about Oral Sex , HIV/AIDS Update (December 2000). 24 A number of the diseases associated with men who have sex with men, particularly the enteric pathogens, are most likely transmitted through an oral/anal or penile/anal/ oral route. Marino & Mancini, 58 Surgical Clinics of North America at 514 ("Sexual transmission of [enteric pathogens] is a possible consequence of oro-anal, ano-genital, and genito-oral contact either separately or in sequence"). One study expressed surprise at finding that oral-anal sex "was the single most important practice associated with infection [with hepatitis B surface antigen] . . . ." Reiner, et al., Asymptomatic Rectal Mucosal Lesions and Hepatitis B Surface Antigen at Sites of Sexual Contact in Homosexual Men . . . , 96 Annals of Internal Medicine at 170. Human herpes virus 8, "a necessary etiologic agent of Kaposi sarcoma," also appears to be spread by oral sex between men who have sex with men (but seldom in opposite- sex couples). Dennis H. Osmond, Ph.D., et al., Prevalence of Kaposi Sarcoma-Associated Herpesvirus Infection in Homosex- ual Men at Beginning of and During the HIV Epidemic , 287 Journal of the Am. Medical Ass'n No. 2, 221 (2002).

Homosexual behavior increases risk of AIDS - Dr. Brian J. Kopp, ... An exhaustive study in The New England Journal of Medicine, medical literature's only study reporting on homosexuals who kept sexual "diaries," indicated the average homosexual ingests the fecal material of 23 different men each year.

Medical Consequences of What Homosexuals Do FECAL SEX About 80% of gays (see Table) admit to licking and/or inserting their tongues into the anus of partners and thus ingesting medically significant amounts of feces. Those who eat or wallow in it are probably at even greater risk. In the diary study,5 70% of the gays had engaged in this activity--half regularly over 6 months. Result? --the "annual incidence of hepatitis A in...homosexual men was 22 percent, whereas no heterosexual men acquired hepatitis A." In 1992,26 it was noted that the proportion of London gays engaging in oral/anal sex had not declined since 1984.

70 posted on 05/15/2003 2:01:51 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: bmwcyle
Where did they take this poll? San Francisco?
71 posted on 05/15/2003 2:03:39 PM PDT by mass55th
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To: ethical
Do you really think men and women in heterosexual relationships would limit themselves to a BJ every time all the time? Get real. The point is that no matter what homos or lesbians engage in sexually there will be no baby.
The point is that no one is saying it should be "practiced by everyone," and that bisesi is making an argument against something that no one is proposing. Hetero men and women will still have sexual intercourse and make babies sometimes even if the law is overturned, and gay men and women won't.
72 posted on 05/15/2003 2:19:32 PM PDT by drjimmy
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To: Remedy
... Men Who Have Sex with Men ...
More twisted lib drivel.
73 posted on 05/15/2003 2:21:12 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: Remedy
ALERT: Six out of Ten Americans are Wrong about Homosexuality!
74 posted on 05/15/2003 2:30:34 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Remedy
Fortunately, the standard for morality is God's Word, not Gallup Polls!
75 posted on 05/15/2003 2:31:14 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Belial
It may be hard to believe, but the majority of Americans aren't particularly interested in regulating the sex lives of consenting adults. ,

Very good parroting of the liberal/liberaltarian smoke and mirrors. The homo nazis do not want tolerance, they do not even want acceptance (whatever the h**l that is!). They want to turn the world into their whorehouse so they can have "Gay Pride" parades everywhere with their disgusting sodomy and worse on display, with instructions in the schools. What to speak of lowering the age of consent.

Your statement is pure nonsense. If the homo activists just wanted to be left alone in peace they would f**king leave US alone!!!

(Excuse my language but I have lost my tolerance!)

76 posted on 05/15/2003 2:31:20 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: caisson71
BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You offered this very intellectual and thoughtful rebuttal to Remedy's links. This is SO adult and insightful! How about some evidence? How about some facts to refute what is in the links? Pro homos can't refute facts so they are reduced to name calling and sticking toungues out. Silly and childish.

77 posted on 05/15/2003 2:36:00 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: Remedy
homosexuality is an inborn trait, and -- similar to gender or race -- is not a decision over which an individual has direct control.

But these same liberals claim gender can be changed through "sex-change" operations, and race can be changed through--well, look at Michael Jackson--so homosexuality can also be changed. They just don't want to change, and want to convert the youth by convincing them that they were "born gay" and can't change.

78 posted on 05/15/2003 2:38:00 PM PDT by Alouette (Why is it called "International Law" if it only applies to Israel and the United States?)
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To: Remedy
I certainly have no problem with two consenting adults doing whatever they want to do, as long as they aren't bothering anyone else. I do not want society to sanction their perverse, would be unions, however.
79 posted on 05/15/2003 2:41:06 PM PDT by Celantro
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To: Belial
Furthermore, after the gay marriage thing passes, the next 'lifestyle' for which they'll demand legal recognition and protection is swinging, then bestiality, then who knows what else

Thanks for a brilliant demonstation of the logical fallacy known as the slippery slope.

I haven't checked your link yet but your statement that there's no "slippery slope" is on it's face fallacious. If people without filters in their brains look at our culture as far as sexualization over the last couple of generations they can easily see the slippery slope happening, and leading into the abyss of total amorality, beast like exploitation and perverse impersonal sex.

80 posted on 05/15/2003 2:41:06 PM PDT by First Amendment
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