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To: Mr. Bird
Very true, but this has less to do with an influx of foreign workers than an overall increase in the supply of qualified native labor. If you go to Monster or CareerBuilder, there are over 4000 jobs listed for programmers, more than any other occupation except maybe sales. The jobs are out there, but there are too many of you fighting for them.

If there are too many Americans fighting for iT jobs why on earth do we keep importing H1B's to increase the competition. You have just undercut your own ccase as to the jobs listed on Monster.com etc. The majority of these are listings for which no American will be hired. Companies in order to import cheap H1b workers must list jobs first. In short I am not buying into your arguing for destroying the Amnerican Middle class in order to subsidize foreign nationals. Why do you hate America?

13 posted on 05/16/2003 6:25:32 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: harpseal
Realistically, only a small percentage of people can start and succeed in a small business. When things were going in the right direction, 4 out of 5 failed.

Yet you hear that all the time here. Laid off from the car wash? Start your own Microsoft.
Some people here can only be explained as shills.
17 posted on 05/16/2003 6:30:07 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (stupid isn't enough)
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To: harpseal
Geez, remember my first post? I said don't do away with H1B altogether, because there are non-IT jobs that utilize the program in a fair and necessary way. I have not once said that American companies should be hiring foreign nationals for IT jobs that can be done by ready and willing Americans. If all of those jobs posted go to foreign nationals, pick a company, and sue the s**t out of them. If you speak the truth, you have a great case.

But why am I not seeing any posts from the anti-H1B crowd about the lawsuits they are filing? There is legal recourse for what you are alleging, and yet not once have I seen someone seek redress. Is it easier to just complain, or is there more to the individual stories than people let on? This is an honest question, and not an accusation.

21 posted on 05/16/2003 6:35:38 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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