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Bush feeling heat after Saudi attacks
Taipei Times ^
| 5.16.03
Posted on 05/16/2003 5:34:30 AM PDT by Enemy Of The State
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To: Enemy Of The State
No "Barf Alert"?
To: Enemy Of The State
""Of course Iraq wasn't going to do much damage to al-Qaeda, because there isn't much evidence they're linked," he said." That doesn't jive with British intelligence.
To: Enemy Of The State
But "it's a fact of human nature that one tends to think of one thing at once. Clearly, the administration ... was preoccupied with Iraq, and Bin Laden and al-Qaeda fell off the radar screen.
Actually, out gov't issued travel warnings, and sent someone from the State Dept to ask the Saudi's to help. We rec'd no help, and the terrorists struck a "soft" target. We have not let them fall to the side, we just have trouble getting anyone to help us....
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posted on
05/16/2003 5:41:30 AM PDT
by
eyespysomething
(Breaking down the stereotypes of soccer moms everyday!)
To: eyespysomething
But "it's a fact of human nature that one tends to think of one thing at once. Clearly, the administration ... was preoccupied with Iraq, and Bin Laden and al-Qaeda fell off the radar screen.Similar to:
Clearly, the administration ... was preoccupied with Japan, and Hitler fell off the radar allowing a massive German outbreak in an area known as the Bulge.
This fight is going to take a while. Good stuff and bad stuff are going to happen. And the situation is going to remain fluid for quite some time. Critics will always have their mouths running about failures, real or imagined. I have yet to see any of them come up with a plan or strategy better than the one being used now. Perhaps mr Graham needs to go work a day as a terrorist so he can better understand how they function.,
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posted on
05/16/2003 5:56:50 AM PDT
by
tbpiper
To: tbpiper
coruscating attack from Senator Bob Graham, who had argued earlier that the Saudi bombings "could have been avoided if you had actually crushed the basic infrastructure of al-Qaeda."
It was a soft target. For someone who sits on the Senate Intel committee, I haven't heard a lot of ideas from him
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posted on
05/16/2003 6:00:01 AM PDT
by
eyespysomething
(Breaking down the stereotypes of soccer moms everyday!)
To: Enemy Of The State
"Of course Iraq wasn't going to do much damage to al-Qaeda, because there isn't much evidence they're linked," he said. We are battling TERROR, not al-Qaeda, and we need to stop falling into the trap that there has to have been coordination between the two. They are both inextricably linked to TERROR, and cannot be unlinked.
I can envision no scenario in which the war on TERROR can be won that would not involve the tumbling of that statue in Baghdad.
To: Enemy Of The State
......had taken its eye off the ball over al-Qaeda because of its obsession with Iraq.Again, we are battling TERROR, not al-Qaeda. Focusing on al-Qaeda alone would BE "taking our eye off the ball".
To: eyespysomething
coruscating attack from Senator Bob Graham, who had argued earlier that the Saudi bombings "could have been avoided if you had actually crushed the basic infrastructure of al-Qaeda." And if Bill Clinton had dealt with Osama and Saddam in a substantive way, we would not be having this discussion.
To: Enemy Of The State
Another media fiction.
There is no "heat".
To: gov_bean_ counter
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posted on
05/16/2003 6:11:34 AM PDT
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eyespysomething
(Breaking down the stereotypes of soccer moms everyday!)
To: Enemy Of The State
What a bunch of crap!
We're dealing with people who wear no uniforms, lurk among innocent people waiting to spring, and who have sympathizers amongst the people who are supposed to be providing us with intelligigence. This would have happened whether Iraq was going on or not.
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05/16/2003 7:59:26 AM PDT
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CaptRon
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To: Enemy Of The State
Why should Bush feel any heat, he's the one on the correct side of the terrorism issue, and has done more in the past 2 years to combat, fight and stop terrorism than any other president in recent history.
He's defeated Osamas Taliban, and Chiraqs Iraq in less than 18 months with a minimus of US casualties. Hell, in Iraq 1/2 thee forces whent twice as far as 1991 and still won the war in less time than it took clinton to defeat david koresh in Texas.
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posted on
05/16/2003 8:33:56 AM PDT
by
ChadGore
(It's all an Amish plot)
To: Concerned Gentleman
you can't set everything on Clinton's shoulders Theory of Proximate Cause says I can.
To: Concerned Gentleman
And if Reagan hadn't armed the mujhadeen in Afghanistan, we mightn't be having this conversation either.If Reagan hadn't armed the mujhadeen in Afghan., the Soviet Union might still be around. Remember, at the time UBL was actually an "ally" of sorts. Why should Reagan or GHW Bush be held responsibile for Bin Laden's "change of heart"?
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posted on
05/16/2003 9:41:30 AM PDT
by
My2Cents
("Well....there you go again.")
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To: Concerned Gentleman
In my uneducated opinion, your's is a nicely crafted albeit convoluted argument that conveniently omits certain mitigating circumstances surrounding that which you characterize as the event and further assumes "facts" that have not been clearly established. I gather you are on the plaintiffs side more often that the defendants. My father the defense attorney warned my about folks like you.
In any event, I have obviously picked a fight which I have no chance of winning. You may have the last shot.
To: Concerned Gentleman
And if Reagan hadn't armed the mujhadeen in Afghanistan, we mightn't be having this conversation either. And if the Evil Empire wasn't expanding into Afghanistan, we wouldn't have sent the arms.
And if Reagan and H.W. Bush hadn't supplied Saddam with arms we also might not be having this conversation.
And if Iran hadn't held our people hostage and become our sworn enemy, we wouldn't have sent the arms.
The blame keeps going back and back, and you can't set everything on Clinton's shoulders.
That's because Clinton doesn't have a reason for his dereliction of duty, except for his own self-absorption, and his disgust for America's strength and sovereignty.
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