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Maybe these folks will re-consider the stupidity of trying to pass "hate crime" legislation.
1 posted on 05/17/2003 5:38:49 PM PDT by Sonny M
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To: Sonny M
tsk tsk ...

Sure looks like a lot of number swapping going on ...

Why are more xxx charged with lynching than yyy?

Could it be that xxx belong to more gangs that attack yyy than there are yyyy that jump on xxxx ???

That law is truely fair AND COLOR-BLIND
2 posted on 05/17/2003 6:01:07 PM PDT by steplock ( http://www.spadata.com)
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To: Sonny M
Today in South Carolina, blacks are most often the ones charged with lynching - defined in the statute as any act of violence by two or more people against another, regardless of race.

Ironically, when I was in grade school 30 years ago in Illinois, we didn't call it lynching. We called it nig*** fighting. Thats the way they fought, by ganging up on white students. Its true. At my highschool, at lunch time, the black students would all sit on the benches that lined one of the halls and try to pick fights with a white student as he walked down the hall.

3 posted on 05/17/2003 6:02:16 PM PDT by virgil
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To: Sonny M
Prosecutors and police argue there is no racial profiling behind the law's application, noting that blacks are charged with other violent crimes more often than whites.

When blacks stop engaging in violent criminal acts, they will stop being charged with violent criminal acts. It is that simple.

But its the use of the word lynching that trips Marcharia and others.

Yeah, the term is a bit old-fashioned.

The proper term for gangs of thugs violently assaulting individuals are "beat-downs" as in:

"Antwan, Shawntroy, Demetrius and LeVonn gave William a 'beat-down' in school today."

They should get the slang right. It will give the law "Street-cred."

5 posted on 05/17/2003 6:18:35 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Sonny M
Typical liberal crap. Three black kids get punished for jumping a white kid and all of a sudden it's the perpetrators who are the victims because the authorities used the "wrong" word to describe the crime.
6 posted on 05/17/2003 6:29:26 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Sonny M
''I was outraged. See, a 13-year-old fighting because somebody either pushed him or punched him is not lynching. ...

SHUT THE F*** UP!!!

Your little darling of a son joined up with three other boys and beat the s*** out of someone!!!

And that was three years ago. Where is your son now? How many others has he beat the s*** out of? What kind of rap sheet does he currently possess? And you, Mr. "Black Warrior" have some nerve whining about words!

Finally, who gives a f*** what you think. Your kid is a thug who victimizes other kids.

GOD, I HATE PEOPLE LIKE THIS!!!

8 posted on 05/17/2003 6:58:21 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Sonny M
I think hate crime legislation is wrong because it places more value on certain groups than on other groups.

The same is true of anti-discrimination laws. I once worked for a federal agency where I was harassed relentlessly. Unfortunately, I couldn't prove that it was based on my gender, religious belief, national origin, sexual preference or skin color.. I was the first person this guy harassed, and there was no other history to compare to. The SOB was out to ruin my life. I filed a grievance with the union, and they refused to hold the federal agency to their own union contract. Deadline after deadline passed without response. They allowed the harasser to continue with his torment. Eventually they reassigned him to another facility, in my husband's chain of command. My husband then became the target of harassment, Then his boss, then his best friend ...

After a couple of years of having this goon turn his torment on employee after employee, one victim finally had enough sense to look at all of us who had been harassed, and saw a connection. We were all Christian (and all ex-military). He filed an EEOC complaint and won.

Because I had filed a grievance, I was informed that I waived my right to any other form of recourse.

Before filing my grievance, I first sought counsel with the representative from the EEOC, and they said they COULDN'T help me, despite the fact that it was obvious I was being harassed, because I couldn’t prove the harassment was for one of their favorite causes.

Additionally, the harasser was of one of the groups protected under the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. What a kick in the pants that was. My agency was afraid to go after him for the numerous harmful things he was doing, for fear he would sue them.

Eventually he left the agency, but sent an Email to everyone whose address he had and indicated that HE was the victim of harassment.

What a pity that the agency hadn't protected us in the first place. They could have called us as defense witnesses. And what a pity that the EEOC laws PREVENTED us from receiving any protection at all until we could prove that we were one of a protected group!

These laws that are intended to favor any minority group will all eventually harm those it intends to protect, and in the mean time, they hurt all of the rest of us.

9 posted on 05/17/2003 6:59:32 PM PDT by passionfruit
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To: Sonny M
Fools and their freedoms are soon parted.
10 posted on 05/17/2003 7:06:57 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: Sonny M
That "Equal Protection Under the Law" technicality sure is a b*tch, isn't it?
12 posted on 05/17/2003 7:25:50 PM PDT by gitmo ("The course of this conflict is not known, yet its outcome is certain." GWB)
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To: Sonny M
This means a whole lot of nothing. The facts can be twisted, distorted; they can be used for either side.

Personally, I don't think the law is the problem. People are the problem.
13 posted on 05/17/2003 7:57:33 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (There are two kinds of people in the world: Idiots, and those who take advantage of them.)
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Quote of the Day by by ladyinred
16 posted on 05/17/2003 9:11:46 PM PDT by RJayneJ
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To: Sonny M
''Obviously, the law has outlived its purpose,'' says J. Wayne Flynt, a professor of Southern history at Auburn University. ''Its intent was to stop extralegal violence, essentially aimed at blacks.''

Oh, so when the violence was primarily whites against blacks, it was a good law to have on the books. Now that the violence is primarily blacks against whites, it's suddenly a bad law to have on the books?

17 posted on 05/17/2003 9:20:52 PM PDT by judgeandjury (The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state.)
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"Obviously, the law has outlived its purpose," says J. Wayne Flynt, a professor of Southern history at Auburn University. "Its intent was to stop extralegal violence, essentially aimed at blacks."

Translation: It ain't right that a black man suffers justice when harming a white dood. We hate whites. They should always suffer.
18 posted on 05/17/2003 10:13:39 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (If the 2nd is for hunting, is the 1st only for writing about hunting?)
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To: Sonny M
....we need a lynch law in here in Maryland....to protect blacks AND whites against urban street gang violence......last week in Baltimore a black man was beaten to death on a city street corner at 3 o'clock in the afternoon......three black assailants using baseball bats killed him because he complained they were using the corner as an open air drug market....Baltimore is the HQ of the NAACP and they like to wring their hands about the lynchings of blacks 100 years ago....but yet in Baltimore 300 blacks are murdered every year.....no telling how many more are killed in Detroit, Chicago, Atlanta, New Orleans, Houston, Los Angeles ect.
25 posted on 05/19/2003 7:23:43 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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I always thought lynching involved a rope.
29 posted on 05/20/2003 12:57:08 AM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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