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Shiites March in Baghdad Against U.S.
Associated Press ^ | 05-20-03

Posted on 05/19/2003 9:25:20 PM PDT by Brian S

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Thousands of Shiite Muslims staged the largest protest against America's presence in Iraq since the war's end with a noisy but peaceful rally. The well-organized march Monday was policed by men carrying AK-47s who did not confront nearby U.S. soldiers keeping watch.

Since Saddam Hussein's ouster by coalition troops last month, there has been a spate of smaller gatherings, some of them hundreds strong, demanding that occupying forces withdraw. But Monday's march was the largest, and had a distinct political message.

Carrying portraits of ayatollahs and other religious leaders, the crowd, which swelled at one point to 10,000, chanted "No Shiites and no Sunnis - just Islamic unity" and sang religious songs. "No to the foreign administration," one banner unfurled by the marchers said.

The march was the latest show by Shiites of their newfound power in postwar Iraq - though they sought to show unity with Iraq's Sunni Muslim minority by starting the march at a Sunni mosque. A lone Sunni cleric took part in the rally, and it was unclear how many Sunnis were in the crowd.

"What we are calling for is an interim government that represents all segments of Iraqi society," said Ali Salman, an activist.

Organizers sprayed participants with water to cool them off, and monitors formed human chains around the crowd to ensure that the marchers stayed in line and no violence occurred.

Small groups of U.S. infantrymen, including snipers deployed on nearby rooftops, watched the rally but did not intervene. Several dozen Shiite organizers armed with assault rifles patrolled the area. They, too, were left alone by the Americans.

The U.S.-led Office of Reconstruction and Humanitarian Assistance said it didn't mind such demonstrations but expressed confidence that a majority of Iraqis welcome the new authorities.

The marchers went from the Sunni mosque in the capital's northern district of Azimiyah and crossed the Tigris River to Kadhamiya, a neighborhood that is home to one of the holiest Shiite shrines in Iraq.

Two dozen Shiite clerics in turbans and black robes led the march, standing in the back of a huge truck to address the predominantly male crowd.

"What we want is a united Iraq," said Mohammed al-Fatous, a 31-year-old Shiite cleric from al-Thawra, a Baghdad district formerly known as Saddam City that is home to 2 million Shiites. The procession was organized mainly by religious groups from al-Thawra.

"We want a nation that's run by honest people who are elected by the people of Iraq," said al-Fatous. "We don't want charlatans."

Many Iraqis are suspicious of exiled opposition politicians who returned following Saddam's fall and are elbowing for power. Some have called the returnees American stooges who are trying to implement a Western-style political system unsuitable for Iraq.

Some marchers carried portraits of the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini of Iran, senior Iraqi Shiite clerics and Imam Hussein, one of Shiite Islam's most revered saints. Many also carried portraits of Imam Mohammed Sadiq al-Sadr, a Shiite cleric killed in Najaf in 1999. His death is widely blamed on Saddam's agents.

Shiites make up 60 percent of Iraq's estimated 24 million people but were politically sidelined and persecuted under Saddam, a member of Iraq's Sunni minority whose 23-year rule was ended by U.S.-led coalition forces last month.

The Sunni-Shiite split in Islam dates back to a succession crisis after the death of the Prophet Muhammad in the 7th century.

Under Saddam, many top Shiite clerics and activists were murdered, jailed or forced into exile. Since his fall, Iraq's Shiite leaders are eager to project an image of Muslim unity. They have played down differences between their sect and the country's mainstream Sunni group, which encompasses the majority of Islam's estimated 1.2 billion followers.

Shiites have swiftly moved to fill the power vacuum Saddam left behind, taking charge of Shiite neighborhoods in Baghdad and cities across the country where members of the sect are the majority. Also, for the first time in years, Shiites have resumed the public practice of some of their rituals, including flying black flags atop their homes.


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1 posted on 05/19/2003 9:25:20 PM PDT by Brian S
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Shiites. So that's how they spell it these days.
3 posted on 05/19/2003 9:41:45 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Beware of Doug.)
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"I'm afraid the Shiites are going to be a big problem. How can they be handled?"

This is the paradox of The Middle East. You liberate these backward idiots and they protest you for doing it. And believe me if they gain power they will deny the right to protest to anyone who doesn't cow to them. The whole region is a cesspool of of fanitics not willing to enter the twenty first century.

4 posted on 05/19/2003 9:43:27 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: roob
declare martial law
5 posted on 05/19/2003 9:45:12 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: Brian S
It seems that whenever we come to the rescue of Muslims (Bosnia and Afganistan vs. Soviets), they show their appreciation by stabbing us in the back. Will Iraq be any different?
6 posted on 05/19/2003 9:49:14 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY (((Watch your back in Iraq)))
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To: Brian S
IMO this is being orchestrated by Iran. The last thing they want to see is a representative secular government in Iraq. Would leave too many in Iran asking for the same. They want the liberalization of Iraq to fail so they can install an Islamic theocratic government there. Left unchecked, there is a good chance that they could succeed. We can't let this happen.
7 posted on 05/19/2003 9:54:48 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: roob
"It makes me wonder about their level of intelligence."

I have long since stopped wondering about that. They're all nuts or worse.

Bart.

10 posted on 05/19/2003 10:12:34 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: roob
"I mean, these people have to learn to all live together in a civil manner. How do we get them to even consider that notion?"

Rome couldn't do it. Many others have tried in the centuries that have ensued. Unless you can shock them out of religous fanaticisim I see little hope short of brute force.

11 posted on 05/19/2003 10:18:38 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: roob
Well ... it took us 7 years in Japan. But ... look at the result. Japan is a healthy and thriving democracy.

Today, a guy named Tom Sullivan was subbing for Rush. He said that he was curious about what we did after the war ended in Japan. MacArthur went there in August of 1945, and we were still there until 1952. Tom said he was very surprised to see that Japan had the very same problems we have now in Iraq; looting, shooting, etc. Plus, as Tom pointed out, we didn't have any such thing as "smart bombs" so all the infrastructure was destroyed.

After ONLY 5 WEEKS - I don't know why people are expecting so much in such a short time. You simply cannot create a democracy in 5 weeks.

And ... our own democracy didn't happen in 5 weeks either.
12 posted on 05/19/2003 10:23:55 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: roob
I saw them for 9 months in the first Gulf war.They are like small kids in thier thinking.
13 posted on 05/19/2003 10:28:01 PM PDT by noutopia
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To: roob
This was supposed to be amillion..ten thousand isn't that big a march for Baghdad.Watch Iran..they are culprits in a lot of unrest and are harboring collaborators in SA bombing.
14 posted on 05/19/2003 10:28:58 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: Brian S
I wouldn't get too pesimistic. Thousands (how many?) marched. Hundreds of thousands didn't. Just like here, those with a gripe go into the streets and complain, and the media covers it. Those who are happy stay home and are ignored. If you listened only to the media you would have thought the Hate America Firsters were the majority here.
15 posted on 05/19/2003 10:38:59 PM PDT by Hugin
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With an iron fist.
17 posted on 05/19/2003 11:19:28 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Brian S
Thousands of Shiite Muslims staged the largest protest against America's presence in Iraq since the war's end with a noisy but peaceful rally.

I guess they havne't been paying attention to the mass graves that have been uncovered, graves that resulted from US troops pulling out in 1991.

It seems that the slave mentality is alive and well in Iraq.

19 posted on 05/19/2003 11:30:00 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Soddom has left the bunker.)
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To: blackbart.223
We were warned long ago about foreign entanglements......
20 posted on 05/19/2003 11:31:26 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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