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Colonel Reb mascot could be in for big changes at Ole Miss
AP ^ | May. 20, 2003 | AP

Posted on 05/20/2003 6:38:19 AM PDT by stainlessbanner

OXFORD, Miss. - Colonel Reb, the mascot at the University of Mississippi, may soon be in for major changes.

Ole Miss athletics director Pete Boone said Monday that the mascot, decked out in red and blue and outfitted like an 18th century Southern gentleman, should no longer represent sports teams at the Oxford school.

"It doesn't fit anything we do," Boone said.

Coming up with an alternative has been a problem, so Colonel Reb will stick around at least through the 2003 football season, Boone said.

It's possible there could be a change for the 2003-04 basketball season, he said.

"We have made a stab at looking for a new mascot, but have failed miserably," Boone said.

Colonel Reb has been considered by some to be a symbol of the Old South and the Confederacy.

Chancellor Robert Khayat has considered changing the school's image by dropping some racially negative symbols.

In 1983, Ole Miss faculty and staff officially disassociated the school from the Confederate battle flag. The alumni association took similar action in 1991.

In October 1997, the Ole Miss student senate adopted a resolution urging students to refrain from waving the Confederate flag at Ole Miss athletic events and Ole Miss fans largely went along.

Also in 1997, Khayat, a former athlete at Ole Miss, hired the New York-based firm Burson-Marsteller to perform a study on Colonel Reb and other symbols at Ole Miss.

He said the primary purpose of the study was to provide guidance in efforts to strengthen the academic reputation of the university, which encompasses four campuses.

After the study was completed months later, Khayat announced Colonel Reb may get a fashion update for a more "vital" look in the near future, but that the school's athletic director would make that decision.

Short of that, any decision about the school's symbols will have to come from students and alumni, he said.

The private Ole Miss Loyalty Foundation that supports athletics recently spent $30,000 for the New York-based Phoenix Group to study Colonel Reb, Ole Miss lettering and logos.

Ole Miss may ask for suggestions in a design contest that opens it up to students, alumni and other supporters during the 2003-04 school year.

No matter what's done, just talk of changing the Ole Miss mascot generates e-mails and gets the attention of fans, officials say.

"People get very passionate about Ole Miss," said Jeff Alford, associate vice chancellor for communications. "Logos and images like that get old, outdated and stale," Alford said.

The athletic department felt it was a good time to freshen the image, he said.

Other colleges around the nation and pro sports teams are constantly updating their symbols and logos, Alford said.

"Big-time college sports is a very competitive industry," Alford said. "If you don't keep up, you stop being competitive."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: colonel; confederate; dixie; dixielist; mascot; mississippi; olemiss; reb
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1 posted on 05/20/2003 6:38:20 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: *dixie_list; annyokie; SCDogPapa; thatdewd; canalabamian; Sparta; treesdream; sc-rms; Tax-chick; ...
It never ends....
2 posted on 05/20/2003 6:39:32 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
The next thing you know, the'll want us to re-name the SEC to eliminate the word "south". What would they have us call it? The Not North Eastern Conference?
3 posted on 05/20/2003 6:46:26 AM PDT by JohnMac
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To: stainlessbanner
They never give up. But the dude looks kind of like a pimp.
4 posted on 05/20/2003 6:46:44 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (If you're looking for a friend, get a dog.)
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To: JohnMac
The next thing you know, the'll want us to re-name the SEC to eliminate the word "south". What would they have us call it? The Not North Eastern Conference?

You're probably not far off the mark. South may be changed in all dictionaries to "not-the-north". As in -- "I've been livin' in not-the-north all my life." Or, Not-the-North Carolina. It may even affect Not-the-North Dakota. My whole family is full of not-the-northerners. A little awkward, but we'll get used to it just to please our PC friends in north and the not-the-north.

5 posted on 05/20/2003 6:51:47 AM PDT by ladtx ("...the very obsession of your public service must be Duty, Honor, Country." D. MacArthur)
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To: stainlessbanner
Could this be the new and improved Colonel Reb?


6 posted on 05/20/2003 7:06:12 AM PDT by Between the Lines
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To: stainlessbanner
Also in 1997, Khayat, a former athlete at Ole Miss, hired the New York-based firm Burson-Marsteller to perform a study on Colonel Reb and other symbols at Ole Miss.

There it is. Perfect example. "Cultural imperialism", a New York firm being invited to pimp over the symbols of the Old South, and help destroy them.

So, what's Khayat's deal? He dislike Southerners? I can see all the money- and image-conscious guys in the Alumni Association slaving for Northern-dominated firms, running away from Old South imagery. After all, cultural and personal mirroring (sucking up, for those of us who prefer our English unvarnished) is all about job preservation and getting ahead.

As for the student orgs -- someone call Orkin. They've got liberal termites.

7 posted on 05/20/2003 7:20:46 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: stainlessbanner
Khayat, a former athlete at Ole Miss, hired the New York-based firm Burson-Marsteller to perform a study

Damn Yankee carpetbaggers....


8 posted on 05/20/2003 7:22:22 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: archy
That would be the Confederate Air Force....err... I mean "commerative"
< shakes head >
9 posted on 05/20/2003 7:24:29 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: lentulusgracchus
So, what's Khayat's deal? He dislike Southerners?

He's a former law professor.

-archy-/-

10 posted on 05/20/2003 7:26:19 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: lentulusgracchus; stainlessbanner
There it is. Perfect example. "Cultural imperialism", a New York firm being invited to pimp over the symbols of the Old South, and help destroy them.

Wouldn't you just know it. You gotta have the right people for the job ya know.

Makes perfect sense. </sarcasm

11 posted on 05/20/2003 7:32:39 AM PDT by SCDogPapa (In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie)
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To: stainlessbanner
"Logos and images like that get old, outdated and stale," Alford said.

Southern Gentlemen never go out of style.

12 posted on 05/20/2003 7:36:00 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Between the Lines
Only if the Dawg was mauling Col. Reb.

We got some Dawgs up in hee-yuh....WOOF WOOF!

(lone cowbell ringing)

13 posted on 05/20/2003 7:38:57 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: stainlessbanner
Let me get this straight. When a team or college has an Indian, oops Native American mascot, that is an insult and racist symbol. Even if the symbol is respectful, such as the Chicago Blackhawks, or Chief Illinewek. But if the college uses a white cartoon character, that is gloryifying the past and must be changed. No wonder teams are coming up with non-sensical names like the Heat.
14 posted on 05/20/2003 7:48:18 AM PDT by sharkhawk
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To: cincinnati65
We got some Dawgs up in hee-yuh....WOOF WOOF!

[Fight Song Tempo] Southern Mississippi to the TOP! To the TOP!

University of Southern Mississippi Golden Eagles!

All that aside, I always thought Colonel Reb looked like he's selling fried chicken, so losing the old logo should be no big thing. I hope Ole Miss can come up with a new logo/mascot that incorporates some of the old style into the image they want to portray.

FWIW, USM puts out updated logos of the Golden Eagle, as well as new mascot "uniforms" periodically.

15 posted on 05/20/2003 7:50:08 AM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: Between the Lines
No, he's too white.
16 posted on 05/20/2003 7:51:16 AM PDT by Guillermo (Sic 'Em!)
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To: cincinnati65
I'd suggest something that exemplifies the fighting spirit of Ole Miss, but do we really need a SEC mascot named Col. Tofu?

Cowbell ringing proudly!!

BTW, I'm pleased to announce that my goddaughter will be attending MSU this fall. Her father, a Nebreska grad, is still in shock...

17 posted on 05/20/2003 8:07:25 AM PDT by Exeter
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To: stainlessbanner
what a bunch of DUMB-bunnies!

FRee dixie,sw

18 posted on 05/20/2003 8:08:28 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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To: stainlessbanner
That would be the Confederate Air Force....err... I mean "commerative"
< shakes head >

Nope! That's a Civil Air Patrol Mississippi Wing patch. To date, at least, they haven't abandoned the ol' Mississippi cuh'nel...

Shucks, the Confederate Air Force name is too good to die. If those other fellers drop that flag, somebody appropriate will come along to pick it up.

-archy-/-

19 posted on 05/20/2003 8:36:16 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: cincinnati65
I went to MSU when there were only about seven girls on campus. Although MSCW was only 20 miles away that was a long walk and not much to offer in way of a date after getting there. That said, I support all Mississippi schools from here in Dallas, TX.

The only way to satisfy the left, and they are the energy behind this drive, is to make a character from the letters in NOW and NAACP and dress it in a tutu. Quite an inspiration that will be.
20 posted on 05/20/2003 9:58:53 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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