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Sid's Id - Blumenthal on the Clintons [Andrew Sullivan ain't no conservative, folks]
The New York Observer via andrewsullivan.com ^ | May 15, 2003 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 05/20/2003 6:41:11 AM PDT by SlickWillard

 

Sid's Id
Blumenthal on the Clintons

Only a few chapters into Sidney Blumenthal's extraordinary account of the Clinton presidency, it dawned on me what the book reminded me of. I wonder why it took me so long. It's not that I am unused to Sidney's prose, or his politics, or his inimitable intellectual hauteur. I'd spent well over a year editing his essays for The New Republic during the Clinton campaign in 1991 and 1992. I'd spent what must have been an accumulated few days of my life listening to him go off at length about this theory or that conspiracy or this historical analogy; and, for the most part, I have to say I enjoyed the experience. There's no one like Sid. Not even in Washington. I'm still immensely fond of him, although it¹s quite clear by now that in some respects, he is completely out of his mind. Those jokes that no one else in the universe got; those pauses at the end of anecdotes, while he grinned and puffed and waited for you to assent to his latest impenetrable concoction; the sweet-natured way in which he assassinated characters who violated his sense of manifest destiny and the tenets of his secular religion: Nope, there is no one quite like Sid.

Which reminds me what The Clinton Wars evoked for me. It has the tone and manner and piety of one of those "Lives of the Saints" books most Catholic schoolkids were once forced to read at some point or other. It's not a memoir; or a history. It's a Gospel. Its facts are assembled, as the facts in the Gospels were assembled, for one purpose only: to affirm the faith, to rally the flock, to spread the further glory of the Church. It is an allegory of eternal good and evil--a passion narrative with a scriptural past and a resurrection at the end, the first-person narrative of one saint who prevailed.

That saint is Bill Clinton. Of all the characters who have graced the office of the presidency, Sidney picks William Jefferson Clinton as the moral exemplar. There is not a scintilla of a clue anywhere in this book that Mr. Blumenthal sees even a trace of irony in this selection. In fact, you can scour this book to find critical or even skeptical judgments of the 42nd president, and you will come up virtually empty. If you were expecting a novelist's treatment, this must be something of a let-down. Mr. Clinton is and was a fascinatingly complex, flawed, intelligent, charismatic human being. Few people got as close to him as Sidney did--at moments of extreme tension and drama. The potential for a real and vivid portrait of the man is great. And yet the picture we get of Mr. Clinton from this book is strangely blank. No foibles; no expletives; no tears; no wit; not a single memorable phrase; not even a fresh insight into the man's psycho-sexual compulsions. That's what happens when the religious temperament prevails. The need to prove not just that Mr. Clinton's opponents were evil, wrong, dumb, malign, gob-smackingly corrupt and duplicitous in every single respect but that the president was noble, grand, progressive, epic, and world-historical must by its very nature obscure nuance. Nuance, after all, could lead to doubt; and doubt to error; and error to damnation. And beyond damnation, there's always the danger of becoming a Republican.

First off, Mr. Blumenthal establishes lineage. This new son of man must be connected to the Old Testament. How to do so? By placing a scene at the start of the book in which the ghost of F.D.R. blesses the man from Hot Springs. So we start in Hyde Park. Sid goes ahead of a presidential visit to pay his respects to his ancestors. The president follows, and places a red rose on F.D.R's and Eleanor's white marble tomb. You'll just have to take my word for it that I'm not making this following bit up:

"An aide gently but insistently reminded [Clinton] that his time was limited. The turbulent world was tugging at him, starting with a boisterous crowd waiting at the local high school. 'It's so peaceful,' Clinton whispered as he stared at the tomb. His mind was filled with great plans: universal healthcare, reducing the federal deficit, investments in education and the environment, cutting crime, remaking the welfare system, ending discrimination, to begin with."

To begin with? What on earth would be next? A space colony on Mars? But to ask such questions of this book is to mistake its essence. To ask how Sid knew what was going on in the president's mind at that moment, is also to miss the point. And Sid doesn't want us to miss the point: "In his pilgrimage to Hyde Park, Clinton sought to identify his innovations with the Rooseveltian spirit. Clinton had seen for himself the reliquaries, and now he could fix his sights on the road ahead. 'I belong here,' he remarked to me as he left Hyde Park."

The religion to which Sid subscribes is a strange one. It¹s not to the ideals of the Democratic Party. It¹s not to the political philosophy of any one thinker--indeed, Sid is oddly indifferent to political theory and has a reductively historicist view of political ideas. It isn't even to some noble conception of America, just of one noble conception of how America should be governed. To be precise, it is to an institution, the Democratic Party. Fealty to that institution--and its success at all costs--is the only moral criterion I can find in Mr. Blumenthal's writing.

And that fealty is based on a leap of faith. For Sidney, his conversion to his religion began early, in Chicago in the middle of the last century. Like all religious fanatics, Sid sees no distinction between religion and politics, or, for that matter, between religion and life:

"Politics, as I grew to understand it, was just there. There was no distance in Chicago between politics and getting a driveway widened, having a tree planted, getting garbage picked up, having a kid getting a summer job. Many small aspects of life and many large aspects of business required connections... The schism between politics and daily life that emerged in the suburbs did not exist."
This is Sid's utopia. A world run by Democrats, in which everyone is a Democrat, everything is a Democrat, and being a Democrat is being a member of the elect, the saved, the holy. When John F. Kennedy visited Chicago in 1960, for Sid, "it was the beginning of the world." His baptism-confirmation into the faith occurred in a huge political rally:
"From time immemorial, Democratic presidential campaigns in Chicago reached their climax with a torchlight parade of precinct captains. Danny Spunt took me to a bus that deposited us at a downtown site and we marched up Madison Street to the ancient Chicago stadium. I pinned a Kennedy button to my jacket and carried a 'Kennedy for President' placard stapled to a wooden stick. There were men holding torches aloft as far as I could see, an endless trail of fire. In the stadium everybody was standing, bellowing and whooping."
In a scene that Leni von Riefenstahl could have photographed well, little Sid had found his God. Three decades later, he found Mr. Clinton.

Sid had been cozying up to Bill and Hillary for years. It was clear well before the 1991 campaign that he had decided that Mr. Clinton was the best shot the Democrats had; and at The New Republic, he set about doing all he could to help. It's important to remember here that Sid is not, by any usual sense of the term, a journalist. Just as, for him, there is no separation between Church and State, i.e. between the interests of the Democratic Party and the interests of America, so, for Sid, the concept of a distinction between journalism and politics was and is meaningless. The only purpose for journalism is to assist the Democratic party in its bid to get or to keep power. The only reason for writing anything was to promote this political agenda. The idea of "truth" or "objectivity," or authorial distance or anything that set the writer apart from his political ends was unintelligible to Mr. Blumenthal. That's why so many of the attacks on him are unfair. His critics assume that he holds the usual liberal notions of what constitutes professional journalism, and has betrayed them. But he doesn't and he hasn't.

The consummation of his love affair with Mr. Clinton came in New Hampshire, where the anointed one somehow managed to survive the first of so many sex scandals and came in second. In The New Republic, I remember reading the first draft of Sid's account--at one point, Sid described Mr. Clinton as morphing into a pale blue flame of incandescent fire--and wondering whether Sid hadn't finally lost it. But he hadn't. He'd seen finally a Democrat with the ruthlessness to win: "He was transcending the kind of media attack that had brought down Hart and the calculated, negative campaign that had paralyzed Dukakis. His performance, upon which the entire fate of the campaign depended, was the most electrifying political moment I had witnessed since I was a boy in the Chicago stadium."

Think about that last statement. Between 1960 and 1992, Sid had witnessed the entire trauma of the 1960¹s, the Kennedy assassinations, the King murder, the Vietnam war, the L.B.J. withdrawal, the McCarthy candidacy, Nixon's impeachment and resignation, the Carter calamity, the Reagan revolution, the fall of the Berlin Wall, and on and on. But his biggest thrill in three decades came when a minor, sleazy Southern politician came in second in New Hampshire. Why? Because for the first time, Sid smelled power--and the kind of amoral tenacity he respected.

Once you realize this, everything else in the book is completely, utterly predictable. Its version of the tortured, tawdry, trivial decade of the 1990¹s is so one-sided it's almost comic. Reading this book is like listening to music on a walkman with only one ear-phone in. Not only is Bill Clinton morally right, he¹s close to politically flawless. All the facts of the presidency are marshaled, sometimes with good narrative skill and smooth prose, to defend this assumption. There is not an argument as such in the book, if by argument, you mean an attempt to grapple with an alternative worldview. You'd be unaware, for example, if this was the only Clinton book you had ever read, that anyone ever had a problem with Bill Clinton's relationship with the truth. You'd be largely unaware of any character defects in the 42d president at all. In fact, the only reason Mr. Blumenthal ever gives for opposition to Mr. Clinton is resentment that he was elected in the first place. All the legitimate disagreement with Mr. Clinton--from the left all the way through to the center-right--is reduced in this book to the ravings of the right-wing extremists.

This, then, is less of an argument than a mammoth, utter, uncompromised, unqualified defense. Of the inside of the Clinton White House, we learn almost nothing from this book. I found two descriptions revealing. I didn't know that Erskine Bowles had said he wanted to throw up the day after the Lewinsky news broke. But I don't blame him. And Sid gets Dick Morris right--down to the quaking hands. Of course, Sid loved Dick Morris. Why? Mr. Morris got Mr. Clinton's numbers back up. The liberal Mr. Blumenthal shared none of the qualms of the administration lefties who objected to Trent Lott's maestro presiding in a Democratic White House. Again, the notion of taking some principles seriously just never occurred to Sid. "Morris, after all, had helped Clinton," Sid writes, in the aftermath of Mr. Morris' exit from the scene. "He should be dealt with humanely. He should not be treated as an antagonist. And he was gone."

But the enemy? Humane isn't exactly the word that comes to mind. The real value of this book is in its portrait of Mr. Clinton's foes. I'll leave the endless sifting of claim and counter-claim to the people who still care who said what to Brock via Ingraham about Willey or Goldberg. A few years later, it seems beyond petty and vicious. From the viewpoint of history, it's going to seem deranged. But the account Mr. Blumenthal gives of the haplessness and priggishness of Kenneth Starr is riveting stuff. The testimony of Sam Dash, Mr. Starr's ethics advisor, is particularly damning. The insane attempt to actually bring down a president over perjury in a civil suit has not yet been more vividly evoked. The character assassination of Hickman Ewing, "the avenging rider of the Gothic South," is a cult classic of Blumenthal hyperventilation. Then there are, alas, the smears. The portrait of Christopher Hitchens as an unreliable, right-wing drunk is particularly vicious and dumb. So is the evisceration of the late Mike Kelly, and vituperation directed at Mike Isikoff of Newsweek, Susan Schmidt of the Washington Post and other actual journalists. This is ugly stuff, and Mr. Blumenthal revels in it.

Mr. Blumenthal was obsessed with the enemy, and together with his new side-kick, the Gollum-like David Brock, he was determined to drive them crazy and fight them "to the death." Everything else became invisible. The myopia is both funny in its way but also deeply contemptuous of civil discourse. Mr. Blumenthal's main gripe is that the Republicans never accepted the legitimacy of a Clinton presidency. But Mr. Blumenthal never accepts the legitimacy of American conservatism. "The only authentic American conservatism," Sid pronounces at one point, "is that of John C. Calhoun, who laid the political arguments for the Confederacy. Other arguments masquerading as 'conservatism' are forms of self-interest expressed on behalf of concentrated private power." Well, you can't say he isn't direct in expressing his contempt. The worst Sid can say of anyone is that they are conservative, by which he means not merely wrong, but evil, the inheritors of slavery and bigotry. So when he writes that "even before the inauguration, the patterns of light and darkness had rolled in," you can see exactly how he sees the world. In a strict sense, I think, Sidney is a Democratic bigot. He doesn't simply differ with the political opposition. He loathes them and believes resisting them is a moral obligation. In this, he was pitted against Republican bigots in the Clinton era, and between them, the secular religious wars almost brought the country to a constitutional crisis.

When you ask whether Sid would ever have re-thought his commitment to the president, this context clearly rules it out. But didn't Mr. Clinton actually lie to Mr. Blumenthal's face? If this were a novel, surely that might have been the moment when our protagonist might have had a second thought; an epiphany; the mother of all reality-checks. But no. Even when the president calls Sid into the Oval Office to feed a lie that he knew would be relayed back to his wife about his sexual innocence, Sidney never rethinks his loyalty; or re-examine Clinton's character. He doesn't even seem to realize that Mr. Clinton had betrayed the trust of their friendship to betray the trust of his marriage:

"I had wanted to believe him, as the rest of his staff had wanted to, whatever our doubts might have been. But the uncomfortable truth could no longer be denied. Throughout the long battle since January, I had repressed whatever I felt about Mr. Clinton's behavior on behalf of the larger political interest. What I felt mattered even less now. The battle over the past eight months was just a preliminary to an even greater one--a fight, it appeared to me, to the death."
There you have it. Not only was the lie irrelevant to Sid, it mattered even less now. All that mattered was the defeat of the enemy. In as much as all ethics were subordinate to "the larger political interest," Sidney and Bill were therefore perfectly aligned. And the deeper the stupid, petty lies of the president, the more vital it was for Sid to defend him. To any person with a moral compass outside of partisanship, this seems close to nuts. It was.

Sid's retroactive defense is that the enemy was worse. And in a contest between the duplicitous Clinton and the puritanical Starr, the country and the Senate were absolutely right to back Mr. Clinton. But the key thing to realize about Mr. Blumenthal is that this is simply retrospective justification. There is not a single thing Mr. Clinton could have done in which, in Sid's eyes, the enemy would not have been worse. Nothing. Sid would have fought for Mr. Clinton whatever. What's amazing about Sidney is that he had no conflict here. He just had an enemy to defeat. You can't find a better emblem of how some liberals' self-righteousness can blind them to their own flaws.

That's why, in the end, this book is worth reading. It's brutally revealing about the stupidity, bigotry, malevolence and extremism of the right-wing forces that became obsessed with president Clinton. I'm glad they ultimately lost. But it's just as revealing about the hollow moral center of Bill Clinton and Clintonism. The fact that the president and, more worryingly, his wife, sought out this slightly nutty man as their confidant, a man whom they knew would never question them, never challenge them, never leave them, reveals the brittleness of their characters and the ruthlessness behind their sanctimony. They used him for his propagandistic skills, and his fawning loyalty. They used him to drape their own modest but defensible record with the patina of world-historical significance. And they used him to lie to one another. Some people would find that demeaning. It tells you a lot about Sidney Blumenthal that he regards it as an achievement worth recording for the ages.

May 15, 2003, New York Observer.
copyright © 2003, Andrew Sullivan


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To: section9
Excellent points. This sort of thing ought to be considered and kept in mind. It's not a pleasant thought at times, but I'd say that the whole Monicagate DID work out for the best of the country. I have to agreee with your assessment of the situation.
21 posted on 05/20/2003 7:38:04 AM PDT by hchutch (America came, America saw, America liberated; as for those who hate us, Oderint dum Metuant)
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To: section9
I agree...
22 posted on 05/20/2003 7:40:54 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: section9
But he was gunning for a President who sat on top of a Tulip bubble economy. Great analogy! Such are the reason I read every post you make that I find! [BTW, didn't Floriad arise from the Tulip Bulb bull market'?]

I'm with you, Gore's ascension would have doomed this nation. Personally, I don't believe the Jones lawsuit should have been allowed to go forward during a sitting predient's term in office ... civil cases should be put off until the term ends. Now a criminal case (which is what the Jones case turned into, after the morass was allowed to proceed), well, that's a different worm to turn. SinkEmperor was impeached for something that surfaced during an ill-advised lawsuit, when he should have been impeached and hanged for the treachery he and his criminal enterprise perpetrated during their rule over America. There's a certain culpability for the Pubbies in that, somewhere.

23 posted on 05/20/2003 7:44:47 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
The only thing you can possibly blame them for is overestimating Bill Clinton's ability to have shame. It was a blind spot that every one of the House managers and Ken Starr had, IMHO. Then again, it showed that many of the right had honor and decency to be ashamed of such actions.

Didn't George Bush Sr. denounce a Republican with a KKK past? Look how the Dems handled their former Klansman.
24 posted on 05/20/2003 7:48:08 AM PDT by hchutch (America came, America saw, America liberated; as for those who hate us, Oderint dum Metuant)
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To: Helms
Uh, you will have to prove this crap if you're gonna spew it out here in my FR home! ... homosexuality is acknowledged as occurring, often genetically, throughout human history. Helms There is a very rare hormonal malady that tends to manifest with effeminate males or masculine females, but it is far from 'often', perhaps as much as 1 in a million live births if CDC stats are to be relied upon.

I'm sorry to be the one to let you in on this 'secret', but homosexuality is a chosen behavior, not a genetic manifestation to be equated with race as a means to minority status. Even effeminate males are known to choose heterosexuality for their sexual 'expression'.

25 posted on 05/20/2003 7:52:54 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: section9
No, no, no. You don't understand. Sullivan is half-right here. Some of our people were nuts... People never run Presidents out of town during good times. But it is the great saving grace of conservatism that we recognize when our people go overboard, and most conservatives recognize that we were outwitted manfully... I'm glad Ken Starr failed in his quest. Had he succeeded, Clinton would have resigned. Al Gore would have become President sometime in 1999, giving him enough time to "unify the country" and assemble his campaign team with all the powers of the Presidency at his disposal... No, it is best that history took the course that it did.

Equality before the law is the founding and guiding principle of the Republican Party. It's why we came into being, why we fought the Civil War, why we altered the constitution [No state shall... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws], and, of all of our qualities, it is the one most quintessentially antithetical to democrats [and their "democracy," also known as the rule of the mob].

W. J. Blythe-Clinton perjured himself before a federal district court judge, then perjured himself before another federal judge, and her grand jury. As we speak, he should be in jail [although, in all honesty, perjury should still be a capital offense, and he should have been hanged]. Equality before the law was dealt a terrible, perhaps mortal blow when Blythe-Clinton was allowed to skate.

Your Machiavellian-Clausewitzian realpolitik is, quite frankly, Clintonian in nature.

26 posted on 05/20/2003 7:53:15 AM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: SlickWillard
Except for the two sentences you highlighted this is a brilliant article. It spectacularly skewers both Sid and his fellow Clinton apologists. They're compared to Leni Riefenstahl, their love of Clinton equated to some form of religious ecstasy. No one has captured the essence of these people as accurately as Sullivan has here.

As to those two sentences: While I disagree with Sullivan, I do understand his point. The obsession of many of my fellow Clinton opponents was not always pretty. There were several friends who I found myself largely avoiding because their obsessions with Clinton were such that they could think (and talk) of nothing else. Worse, this knee-jerk single-mindedness often led to errors of political and legal judgement. Clinton and his allies played these tendencies to their advantage. As the Clinton haters became louder and more strident, Middle America walked away in disgust. It's sad, but it's also true, and Sullivan captures that attitude in those two sentences.

The good news is that the shoe is on the other foot now. The anti-Bush people (including my ex) have made themselves so ridiculous in their stridency and hate that they have become completely marginalized. No one pays attention to them and, when they do, the result is usually the opposite of what they intend. There's a good object lesson here: hate and unrestrained anger never advance an agenda, however just that agenda may otherwise be.

27 posted on 05/20/2003 7:57:21 AM PDT by Reverend Bob
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To: Reverend Bob
Well said.
28 posted on 05/20/2003 8:00:35 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: hchutch
"...It's not a pleasant thought at times, but I'd say that the whole Monicagate DID work out for the best (for) the country...."

Yes, but only because in its defense of Clinton the Left exposed itself to be the opportunistic bunch of career-minded, power-hungry boot lickers that we know them to be. Sullivan is right about the Starr investigation. It was exhorbitantly expensive exercise in investigating trivia while ignoring what might have actually been impeachable offenses: the litany of abuses of power by the Clintons against dissidents, large and small.

I think that Starr recognized that delving into things like the FBI Files, targeted IRS harassment of conservative institutions, the Clintons' use of PI's to harass dangerous people (Willey, Jones, et al) and the rank politicization of government functions for the partisan political benefit of the Democrat Party were just too hot to handle. There were simply too many skeletons in closets on both sides of the aisle to get into that dirty laundry. So he spent $50 million determining whether WJC cheated on his wife and lied about it in a third rate sexual harassment trial.

A waste of time and money and really an embarassment to us all who took it seriously.

Monicagate did help elect GWB in 2000. But let's not kid ourselves about its legal merits.




29 posted on 05/20/2003 8:05:25 AM PDT by irish_links
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To: SlickWillard
the Gollum-like David Brock

My favorite line of the whole article!

30 posted on 05/20/2003 8:08:34 AM PDT by Maigret
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To: MHGinTN
Uh, you will have to prove this crap if you're going to spew it out here in my FR home! Otherwise this is not a sexuality or religious forum. While I respect your opinions, beliefs, etc. kindly respect mine. Again, there is a bigger war afoot and it isn't about sexuality.

Again, the train has left the station and if you care to disregard it, then minority political status will be the Republican future.

31 posted on 05/20/2003 8:35:31 AM PDT by Helms (Fighting Two Wars - On Terrorism and Postmodern Liberalism)
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To: Helms
Uh, you will have to prove this crap if you're going to spew it out here in my FR home!

hey, hey, hey, hey, my home as well as yours. I know of no "secrets", I will tell you no lies.

Otherwise this is not a sexuality or religious forum. While I respect your opinions, beliefs, etc. kindly respect mine. Again, there is a bigger war afoot and it isn't about sexuality.

Again, the train has left the station and if you care to disregard it, then minority political status will be the Republican future.

32 posted on 05/20/2003 8:36:18 AM PDT by Helms (Fighting Two Wars - On Terrorism and Postmodern Liberalism)
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To: SlickWillard
Thanks for the post. Sullivan is always a good read.

Sid had been cozying up to Bill and Hillary for years. It was clear well before the 1991 campaign that he had decided that Mr. Clinton was the best shot the Democrats had; and at The New Republic, he set about doing all he could to help.

There are those who wonder if Clinton was hand-picked by the international left to run for president. They cite Hillary's early involvement with the left in college and with Clinton's mysterious pilgrimage to Russia and eastern Europe after he was booted from Oxford. Does this early involvement with good commie soldier Sid Bloomie add a little credence to that argument?

33 posted on 05/20/2003 8:46:47 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: Helms
Prove your specious assertion that ... homosexuality is acknowledged as occurring, often genetically, throughout human history. Note the underlined lickspittle you tried to foist.

You think you can toss out such an inane assertion and then have people step aside to 'agree to disagree' with such? Prove that piece of homo-apologist crap, or withdraw the idiocy! You have some train there, apologist. You can leave the station and get the over the cliff at your whim, but don't expect others to join your 'train' based on your false assertions. You come across as a RINO, not a Pubby, with such garbage phrases.

34 posted on 05/20/2003 8:52:29 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: SlickWillard
Regretably, with Sullivan sodomy trumps conservatism. He is very intelligent, he gets in some great licks against Sid Blumenthal, but in the end he just doesn't understand the basic conservative principle that a free society requires morality and self-discipline. If you don't discipline yourself, then sooner or later someone will come along and do it for you, and then freedom is lost.
35 posted on 05/20/2003 8:52:46 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: wideawake
Should the Republican Party open its tent so wide that we allow in Communists?
Of course not, since Communism is radically opposed to the market economics the Republican Party stands for?
Why then should the Republicans welcome in sodomites who oppose the traditional values the Republican Party stands for.

Your straw man is burning. Communist would have no interest in the Republican Party so your hypothesis is moot. That is, unless they intended to enter it through stealth in order to eventually transform it. In that case you would not know they were Communists.

As far as the Sodomites, they are going to vote for someone so why not for our values rather than the left's? Must all Republicans be as pure as Caesar's wife? I'll bet there are many differences among freepers but we share enough common values to interact and support each other in those values. There are probably even (shudder) Sodomites among us.

36 posted on 05/20/2003 9:02:57 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
That is, unless they intended to enter it through stealth in order to eventually transform it.

Precisely, aside from the stealth.

Stealth isn't necessary - they announce their intention to make the Republican Party a sodomy-friendly organization.

Why do the Log Cabin Republicans exist as an organzied gay pressure group within the Republican Party? Because they want to maintain traditional family values?

No.

Because they want the Republican Party and the Democrat Party to both be irrevocably committed to their world view.

37 posted on 05/20/2003 9:07:07 AM PDT by wideawake (Support our troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: Helms
Again, there is a bigger war afoot and it isn't about sexuality.

If you don't think that homosexuals are waging war against tradition conservative values, then you have your head in the sand. (ps. I have some gays friends, too)

38 posted on 05/20/2003 9:08:57 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const vector<tags>& oldTags)
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To: nutmeg
read later bump
39 posted on 05/20/2003 9:09:57 AM PDT by nutmeg (USA: Land of the Free - Thanks to the Brave)
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To: SlickWillard

40 posted on 05/20/2003 9:11:18 AM PDT by SerpentDove (Each post focus-group tested for maximum wallop.)
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