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What a shame; I think we were all holding out some hope for Sullivan, but it just goes to show that you can NEVER trust these people.
1 posted on 05/20/2003 6:41:11 AM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Bump.
2 posted on 05/20/2003 6:41:56 AM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: SlickWillard
The man's free time is spent sodomizing other men he meets on the internet.

What did anyone expect?

3 posted on 05/20/2003 6:44:18 AM PDT by wideawake (Support our troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: SlickWillard
'I belong here,' he remarked to me as he left Hyde Park."


Better than Ft Marcy park I guess.
4 posted on 05/20/2003 6:45:20 AM PDT by Arkie2 (TSA ="Thousands standing around")
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To: SlickWillard
Good article except for the last bit.

Sully is still mad about the Santorum affair, and the fact that Bush backed Santorum. He's unsure of where to go now, because Sully loves his HIV+, gay orgies and baths lifestyle. Spreading his disease to others.

Most Republicans (though not all!) have condemned his lifestyle.
5 posted on 05/20/2003 6:50:24 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: SlickWillard
We must keep the Republican tent as small as possible and not tolerate dissent! It is the way to electoral victory!
6 posted on 05/20/2003 6:59:52 AM PDT by don'tbedenied
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To: SlickWillard
What a shame; I think we were all holding out some hope for Sullivan, but it just goes to show that you can NEVER trust these people.

No, no, no. You don't understand.

Sullivan is half-right here. Some of our people were nuts. The entire Trixie-Tripp-Monica triumvirate was tailor-made for people like Blumenthal to exploit. But Sullivan's disparagement of Starr is misplaced.; Kenneth Starr was attempting to follow the law to its logical conclusion-something Democrats find amusing and contemptible. If Starr looked at the Constitution as his lodestar, then his actions make sense: he saw in Clinton a man trying to break the law, and he was relentless in his prosecution. But he was gunning for a President who sat on top of a Tulip bubble economy.

People never run Presidents out of town during good times. But it is the great saving grace of conservatism that we recognize when our people go overboard, and most conservatives recognize that we were outwitted manfully.

But if Ken Starr saw the law as his lodestar, then what Sullivan's critique reaffirms is that Clinton and the Democrats looked at the Constitution the way a German looks at a speed limit on the Autobahn. Understand something here: I'm in agreement with Sullivan, but for different reasons.

I'm glad Ken Starr failed in his quest. Had he succeeded, Clinton would have resigned. Al Gore would have become President sometime in 1999, giving him enough time to "unify the country" and assemble his campaign team with all the powers of the Presidency at his disposal. Gore's entire approach to domestic policy would have been just as partisan as Clinton's, and would have divided the country even more than it is today.

Gore's approach to foreign policy would have had baleful consequences. It is instructive that Clinton/Gore made only fitful, half-hearted attempts to attack Al Qaeda. Bin Laden rightly never took Bill Clinton seriously. It is doubtful that Gore would have done anything to commend him to bin Laden's patheon of People to Be Respected.

I do not believe that Gore would have responded as ruthlessly and as singlemindedly as Bush and his team has. Saddam would still be in Baghdad. And God knows what might have been done to us now, in addition to the attacks on New York and Washington.

No, it is best that history took the course that it did. After all, did not Bush speak in his First Inaugural about an "Angel in the Whirlwind" that directs our affairs? We cannot know God's direction, but we can know that it His will is there.

As to Blumenthal? The imagery of the torchlight parade is condemnation enough, and Sullivan rightly makes the comparison. Given Blumenthal's fanaticism, no comparison save this one is more apt...

Those who forget the lessons of History are doomed to repeat their mistakes.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

16 posted on 05/20/2003 7:23:38 AM PDT by section9 (Yes, she's back! Motoko Kusanagi....tanned, rested, and ready!)
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To: SlickWillard
Never thought he was. He just hated the Clintons.
18 posted on 05/20/2003 7:27:07 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: SlickWillard
Out of that whole article..THAT'S what you came away with...how sad.
20 posted on 05/20/2003 7:35:58 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: SlickWillard
Except for the two sentences you highlighted this is a brilliant article. It spectacularly skewers both Sid and his fellow Clinton apologists. They're compared to Leni Riefenstahl, their love of Clinton equated to some form of religious ecstasy. No one has captured the essence of these people as accurately as Sullivan has here.

As to those two sentences: While I disagree with Sullivan, I do understand his point. The obsession of many of my fellow Clinton opponents was not always pretty. There were several friends who I found myself largely avoiding because their obsessions with Clinton were such that they could think (and talk) of nothing else. Worse, this knee-jerk single-mindedness often led to errors of political and legal judgement. Clinton and his allies played these tendencies to their advantage. As the Clinton haters became louder and more strident, Middle America walked away in disgust. It's sad, but it's also true, and Sullivan captures that attitude in those two sentences.

The good news is that the shoe is on the other foot now. The anti-Bush people (including my ex) have made themselves so ridiculous in their stridency and hate that they have become completely marginalized. No one pays attention to them and, when they do, the result is usually the opposite of what they intend. There's a good object lesson here: hate and unrestrained anger never advance an agenda, however just that agenda may otherwise be.

27 posted on 05/20/2003 7:57:21 AM PDT by Reverend Bob
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To: SlickWillard
the Gollum-like David Brock

My favorite line of the whole article!

30 posted on 05/20/2003 8:08:34 AM PDT by Maigret
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To: SlickWillard
Thanks for the post. Sullivan is always a good read.

Sid had been cozying up to Bill and Hillary for years. It was clear well before the 1991 campaign that he had decided that Mr. Clinton was the best shot the Democrats had; and at The New Republic, he set about doing all he could to help.

There are those who wonder if Clinton was hand-picked by the international left to run for president. They cite Hillary's early involvement with the left in college and with Clinton's mysterious pilgrimage to Russia and eastern Europe after he was booted from Oxford. Does this early involvement with good commie soldier Sid Bloomie add a little credence to that argument?

33 posted on 05/20/2003 8:46:47 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: SlickWillard
Regretably, with Sullivan sodomy trumps conservatism. He is very intelligent, he gets in some great licks against Sid Blumenthal, but in the end he just doesn't understand the basic conservative principle that a free society requires morality and self-discipline. If you don't discipline yourself, then sooner or later someone will come along and do it for you, and then freedom is lost.
35 posted on 05/20/2003 8:52:46 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: nutmeg
read later bump
39 posted on 05/20/2003 9:09:57 AM PDT by nutmeg (USA: Land of the Free - Thanks to the Brave)
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To: SlickWillard

40 posted on 05/20/2003 9:11:18 AM PDT by SerpentDove (Each post focus-group tested for maximum wallop.)
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To: SlickWillard
One may as well be reading a book from a sychophantic author who worked for Joe Stalin who was writing about Stalin's character and enlightened regime, while Stalin was still alive!
42 posted on 05/20/2003 9:19:04 AM PDT by Gritty
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To: SlickWillard
YOO-HOO Sid…
It won't s-p-i-n 

All the fuss over the spread-eagle pose and the tie pointing to nothing much.

I think the great untold story of that photo is the scary fisheye distortion of his hands, monstrous rapist's hands, hands that held down Juanita, hands that only underscore his congenital smallness...

It is as though the photographer was saying, "You small - - - - -. I believe Juanita."

 

GORE ON CLINTON RAPES-THE VIDEO
YOO-HOO missus clinton:
THE CLINTON RAPES ARE
"UNBECOMING"


Aside: Isn't it interesting how the clintons, how this "brilliant man" and this "smart" woman, (as Estrich is wont to describe them these days) -- ("the smartest woman in the world" according to the clinton version always careful not to preclude the possibility of smarter men) -- isn't it interesting how these two veritable geniuses never fail to fall for the artiste's inside joke?

bushwhacked by tailhook: the real reason

Reciprocal Intern-Exploitation-Purgation Attempt at JFK Library
"I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine...."

Are Susan Estrich, Al From and The Times on the same "Get the clintons off the stage!" page?...
(Desperately seeking Susan.... Who spiked her, anyway?)



Democratic Party's Problem Transcends Its Anti-War Contingent
CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme FICTIONAL TRILOGY
Q ERTY8PING

The REAL "Living History" -- clintoplasmodial slime



46 posted on 05/20/2003 9:52:45 AM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: SlickWillard
And in a contest between the duplicitous Clinton and the puritanical Starr, the country and the Senate were absolutely right to back Mr. Clinton.

The law Paula Jones used against Clinton, namely allowing expanded discovery in sexual harrasment suits, had been supported by Clinton and signed into law by Clinton. The Office of Independent Counsel had been re-authorized by ... Bill Clinton. Sullivan is wildly off-target with his attack on Starr her - Starr's office and the lawbreaking he was investigating was created by Clinton himself, who never envisioned that the laws would actually apply to HIM...

52 posted on 05/20/2003 12:47:03 PM PDT by dirtboy (someone kidnapped dirtboy and replaced him with an exact replica)
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