[Hoplite]

Condi Rice went to the Ukraine to arm twist them to stop shipments of weapons to FYROMacedonia because the Bush administration wanted the Slavs to make a deal with the Albanian Muslims and partition the country along ethnic lines.

Destro, you're a lion sized ego with a mouse sized brain - we have been attempting to prevent Macedonia from splintering into ethnic statelets all along, and I would direct your attention to the results, which, while not perfect, are a damn sight better than what the morons in charge of the extremes of each of the warring parties were hoping for.

You're just going to have to get used to having your little christoslavist hopes and aspirations remaining unfulfilled - who in the US government supports your wacked out worldviews?

Nobody, that's who. Deal with it.

[Destro]

You can spin Condi's backstab of FYROM all you want but in the "we" allowed the Albanians to get a third of that country without much of a fight. A fight the Slavo-Macedonians had every right to wage and a fight we had every obligation to support seeing as how FYROM is a member of NATO's Partnership for Peace.

[Destro]

PS: I won't even mention how we sent our troops into harm's wat to escort to safety Albanian terrorists who were about to be overun.

[inquest]

I would direct your attention to the results, which, while not perfect, are a damn sight better than what the morons in charge of the extremes of each of the warring parties were hoping for.

Appeasement doesn't work, Hoplite. Never has. And yes, appeasement is exactly what we did. We rewarded a bunch of thugs by giving them their little fiefdom(s) from which they export heroin, run child-prostitution rings, and amass further power so they could cause more trouble down the line.

There's no reason at all we needed to dictate to Ukraine or anyone else whom they could or couldn't sell weapons to, particularly when they were selling them to a democratic government that was legitimately putting down an insurrection.