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France not invited for air force exercise in US (they can leave the white flags at home)
The Times of India ^ | May 22 2003 | PTI

Posted on 05/22/2003 9:41:07 AM PDT by knighthawk

WASHINGTON: Still upset with France for its opposition to the Iraq war, the Pentagon has said that Paris been "disinvited" from participation in a long-scheduled Air Force exercise to be held next year in Nevada.

The Pentagon told the French military attache here that his country has been "disinvited" from taking part in the exercise called Red Flag, media reports said.

In the same spirit, France has already been informed that the US will limit its participation in next month's Paris Air Show, they said.

No American generals would attend and there would be no demonstrations by US aircraft. American planes will be sent for the show but they would stay on the ground during the exhibition.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: airforce; exercise; france; nevada; notinvited; punishment; redflag; turass

1 posted on 05/22/2003 9:41:08 AM PDT by knighthawk
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Ping
2 posted on 05/22/2003 9:41:29 AM PDT by knighthawk (Full of power I'm spreading my wings, facing the storm that is gathering near)
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To: knighthawk
(...exercise called Red Flag...)

Had the exercise been called White Flag, the French would have been invited as the main event.
3 posted on 05/22/2003 9:46:36 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: knighthawk
This makes me feel all warm and fuzzy about this administration. I hate being a doormat... ;o)
4 posted on 05/22/2003 9:46:46 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Never have so many, been so wrong, about so much.)
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BTTT!!! - Outstanding !!!! Keep the hammer down ! Thanks for posting.....
5 posted on 05/22/2003 9:46:50 AM PDT by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: knighthawk
American planes will be sent for the show but they would stay on the ground during the exhibition.
Kind of like the French do when it's not an exhibition.

-Eric

6 posted on 05/22/2003 9:51:25 AM PDT by E Rocc
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To: knighthawk
The Pentagon told the French military attache here that his country has been "disinvited" from taking part in the exercise called Red Flag, media reports said.

Mon Dieu, if it had been called White Flag, the French military would have been the guests of honor.

7 posted on 05/22/2003 9:56:12 AM PDT by xJones
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To: knighthawk
Actually, aircraft is about the only military weapon that France makes that doesn't suck...
8 posted on 05/22/2003 10:02:39 AM PDT by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (Wanna buy a used Iraqi military rifle? Never fired and only dropped twice!)
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To: davidosborne
BTTT!!!!!!
9 posted on 05/22/2003 10:07:28 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Aut Pax Aut Bellum
The reason the French make very fast aircraft, is because you can't get an aircraft to fly backwards.......
10 posted on 05/22/2003 10:16:44 AM PDT by crazycat
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To: Aut Pax Aut Bellum
Aircraft is about the only ANYTHING that France makes that doesn't suck.
11 posted on 05/22/2003 10:24:42 AM PDT by 4mycountry (If I'm a Viking Kittie, and kitties hunt mice, then why am I hunting "trolls"?)
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To: knighthawk
Outstanding!!!

Let there be lots more penalties for the actions of the French!

I hope these orders came from the very TOP. Maybe Cheney has some say too??
12 posted on 05/22/2003 10:32:56 AM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: knighthawk
bump
13 posted on 05/22/2003 10:52:17 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: knighthawk
Red Flag's a hoot. Used to participate in these (think "aerial war games", or exercises). Too good for our French friends. :)
14 posted on 05/22/2003 10:53:59 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: knighthawk
Why would a country, that will not fight on the "fields of honor" - need a military?

French "warriors" are their diplomats and swarmy industrialists that like to do "business" with the dictators and Islamist haters of Western Civilization.....

Semper Fi
15 posted on 05/22/2003 11:08:40 AM PDT by river rat (War works......It brings Peace... Give war a chance to destroy Jihadists...)
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To: knighthawk
...the Pentagon has said that Paris been "disinvited" from participation in a
long-scheduled Air Force exercise to be held next year in Nevada


Here is an under-reported factoid:
The theme for the current Paris Air Show is: the shared history of American and French
aviation.

At least that's what was reported in The Los Angeles Times article yesterday about
the greatly-diminished American presence at the show. I don't think the article
mentioned this, but I suspect that for such a big shindig, that theme was
probably selected long in advance of the show.

As the theme wasn't changed, it show the French are still trying to
get America "back in bed" with them.
16 posted on 05/22/2003 11:12:50 AM PDT by VOA
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To: knighthawk
The problem was, like dodgeball, both the Red side and the Blue side continued to argue about who had to pick the French.
17 posted on 05/22/2003 11:20:04 AM PDT by Jonah Hex
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To: 4mycountry
I wish it were so!

I looked around my home and was amazed at the things "French" that I owned.

Not only food, but the very best iron and toaster I have ever owned are "Rowenta".
18 posted on 05/22/2003 11:32:08 AM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: Jonah Hex
Good one!

Actually, according to the Washington Post, the Pentagon said slots for foreigners at Red Flag "are going to be reserved for those with whom we will likely be participating in operations in the future." Ouch!
19 posted on 05/22/2003 11:33:23 AM PDT by Growler
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To: Aut Pax Aut Bellum
Actually, aircraft is about the only military weapon that France makes that doesn't suck...

LOL. And we would know this how? Since they've never flown in combat . . . and they probably never will unless it's against a Banana Republic in Africa where the anti-aircraft weapon of choice is a slingshot.

20 posted on 05/22/2003 11:38:17 AM PDT by geedee (Part of the secret of a success in life is to eat what you like and let the food fight it out inside)
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To: 3D-JOY
You said, "I hope these orders came from the very TOP. Maybe Cheney has some say too??"

What if they came from the VERY TOP the President and that maybe a couple of RATS ought to think about the principles of a man taht does not put things behind hiom for the sake of TRADE. Maybe being with us or against us is more the "read my lips."

If I was in politics I would be sure that when I picked a fight with the Presidnet it was not persona, because he seems to keep a list and check it more than once a year. I doubt that all the BS we hear from the 9 dwarfs is going without some note taking on the part of President Bush.

21 posted on 05/22/2003 11:52:21 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: knighthawk
The FRench are learning that words and actions have consequences.

Perhaps next time they will be a little more amenable?
22 posted on 05/22/2003 12:13:41 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: Aut Pax Aut Bellum
Actually, aircraft is about the only military weapon that France makes that doesn't suck...
Monsieur, I beg to differ with you. Look at a Super Entendard vs an F-16, a Mirage IV vs an F-15. The only reason Frog planes fly is because of technology that was either bought or stolen from the U.S.
23 posted on 05/22/2003 12:24:44 PM PDT by wjcsux
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To: Aut Pax Aut Bellum
"Actually, aircraft is about the only military weapon that France makes that doesn't suck..."

Yeah, those Iraqi Air Farce Mirage jets really extinguished themselves in the recent conflict...

24 posted on 05/22/2003 1:13:14 PM PDT by Redbob
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To: q_an_a
I agree with you. I want him as a friend not enemy!

BUT...When he began his term with the "can't we all just get along" attitude I was very worried. I was afraid he would not be strong and determined. BOY 9-1-1 sure changed that on the international scene.

Now...when will the Kennedys pay for the slights to Laura( to please Hillary) and himself ( come over to the movies and we will plan a building named for Bobby). Letting Kennedy draft the education plan and then having him blame George for the funding ...SHOULD HAVE BEEN STRIKE THREE!!

Man, I hate these stinking 'rats!
25 posted on 05/22/2003 2:41:17 PM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: VOA
Lockheed won't take F-16 to Paris Air Show
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/901937/posts

Pentagon cutting back participation in Paris Air Show after US-French dispute over Iraq
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/912293/posts
26 posted on 05/22/2003 3:40:56 PM PDT by knighthawk (Full of power I'm spreading my wings, facing the storm that is gathering near)
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To: wjcsux; Aut Pax Aut Bellum
Yeah? well compare Thunderbird with Chateau-Latife?

Look at a Super Entendard vs an F-16, a Mirage IV vs an F-15

True comparison: Super Entendard vs McD-D A4M Skyhawk, a Mirage IV vs NA A-5 Vigilante. A lot closer in timescale and performance.

27 posted on 05/22/2003 7:13:58 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Stan Cross, Marcia Hines, Mel Gibson: if we can pry them away from you, they're ours!)
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To: knighthawk
You've got good stuff. Can you add me you your ping list? Thanks.
28 posted on 05/22/2003 7:51:27 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: knighthawk
Can you add me to your ping list? Thanks
29 posted on 05/22/2003 7:58:48 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: knighthawk
Perhaps I can help the the frogs understand the PERMANENT change in U.S. sentiment:

1. french President Jacques Chirac, personally helped Iraq begin its nuclear program.
2. france assisted China in shipping raw materials for chemical weapons to Iraq through Syria.
3. french security services helped suppress opposition groups seeking to depose Saddam Hussein.
4. The french had supplied Iraq with precision switches for nuclear weapons.
5. french companies had resupplied Iraq with spare parts for fighter jets on the eve of the March 2003 invasion. Intelligence reports indicated that Iraq was able to obtain French military spare parts for its Mirage jets and Gazelle attack helicopters in violation of U.N. sanctions.
6. The french helped Iraqi officials escape U.S. capture by issuing them EU passports. The passports allowed the Iraqis to evade detection by U.S. military and intelligence agencies because they were EU travel documents.
7. Intelligence officials said France attempted to conclude an oil deal with Saddam's government days before U.S. military action began March 19.
8. The french peddled disinformation against the Americans before the war -- this is a war for oil, Resolution 1441 does not authorize military action, George Bush is "cowboy," etc. -- at the very least, they now deserve some of their own.

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30 posted on 05/23/2003 6:03:20 AM PDT by schaketo (Vote for Crazy Al Sharpton in the Demoncrap Primaries)
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