New York Turns Out In Style As Giuliani Marries For Third Time

Independent (UK) ^ | 5-25-2003 | David Usborne

[NYC GOP Chick]

As we watch NYC return to Gotham only a New Yorker can truly appreciate how great he indeed was as Mayor.

All true. And only a New Yorker can appreciate the public spectacle of a "marriage" that he and his former wife had for most of his time in office. They lived separate lives since shortly after he first came to office.

We also know that there is no way in hell that the former Mrs. Giuliani was "blindsided" by his request for a divorce, given their rather public distancing from one another and various passive-aggressive acts carried out in public.

[NYC GOP Chick]

I totally agree with you, and I think that some people are just looking for nits to pick.

[NYC GOP Chick]

"Son, this is the woman I chose over your mom--you know, the one I committed adultery with back when we were married. Now that that's over with, and our family's broken up, I want you to be the chief witness to my latest promise of marital fidelity." Sounds sick to me. Is it OK by you?

The Giulianis had a very publicly miserable and dysfunctional marriage. They were never seen in public together; she publicly dropped his last name and took back her prior husband's last name; she sought out a role in that Talking Cooters play, just when he was starting to gear up his race for the Senate; when he was re-elected in 1997, she made a point of seeking out the media so that she could say she didn't know if she was going to vote for him; etc.

That family was "broken up" long before Rudy took up with a woman who loves him for himself, not for whatever power she could get from him. Did you know that shortly after he was first elected, his wife had a tantrum when he wouldn't give her a "Hillary-like role" in City Hall?

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Very informative. I wasn't aware of how bad Rudy's relationship with his ex-wife was.

I was fortunate enough to marry a really great guy who treats me better than anyone deserves to be treated - but I have seen friends go through some unbelievably nasty things in their marriages, and from the outside looking in, you would never have known how miserable their lives were. After having seen some of that stuff, I still wish married people could find a way to stay married, but I'm much slower to preach to others on the topic.

I wish the bride, the groom, and the son much happiness. And they can wear whatever they want, as far as I'm concerned. ; )

[NYC GOP Chick]

Yeah, it was pretty much common knowledge re: their relationship. I mean, even the most casual observer couldn't help but see that he was attending events alone (or with his kids), that she dropped her married name (and took back that of her previous husband), that she enjoyed all the perks of being the First Lady of NYC, etc.

I also wish married people would find a way to make it work -- at least until the kids are grown and out of the house -- but I suppose that some situations are so toxic that it's better for all involved if they just part company.

I mean, the way she treated him when he was undergoing treatment for his cancer (radiation therapy, I think) was beyond cruel and despicable. She not only kicked him out of their bedroom and wouldn't even let him stay in a room near a bathroom, but she arranged it so that he was staying in a room right below the master bedroom, and she'd use her exercise machines every day at 5 a.m.

Considering that they lived in that mansion because of *HIS* job and he could have kicked her ass out of there at any time, I think she had a big pair of brass ones to do that to him.

She also had a lot of nerve showing up at the hospital where his mother was taken and making a big scene by refusing to leave until the media had been there and left. Btw, this happened *after* they split.

I'm always happy to hear about people like you, who've found wonderful mates, and I hope that I am so lucky one day. :) And after all that Rudy has been through and done for this city, I wish him, his wife and his children nothing but happiness. As for the former Mrs. Giuliani, she's not exactly crying herself to sleep, alone, at night -- she's now engaged to marry her high school sweetheart. In fact, when they went to shop for an engagement ring, she actually had that "event" placed in the AP Daybook. Really! :)

[firebrand]

I find it disgusting and an insult to all brides who are getting married for the first time and deserve to look the part.

[madprof98]

. . . what you are doing is leaping to negative conclusions about people using extremely limited information, and that's the kind of judgment I can do without

You and a lot of other people. That's why adultery, which was once considered shameful behavior, is now celebrated in the media. It's why children are expected to cheer on their parents when they promise--for the third time, the fourth time, or whatever time--to love, honor, and cherish another person for the rest of their lives (wink, wink, wink). It's sick and evil. I'm sorry you have no problem with it.

[Hildy]

I don't know..I wore white..got married for the first time at the age of 37. So what? Who's life is being affected. This is just one fight that's just not worth it.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

It must be a heavy burden, having to worry about everyone else's sin along with your own.

There is a certain irony in the fact that you choose a thread about a wedding to complain about someone's past adultery. I would think someone as worried about marriage and fidelity as you are would be celebrating the fact that Rudy finally "made an honest woman" out of Judith.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

I hope Rudy has at last found real love and lasting happiness. It sounds like he's been through marital hell.

(Apparently there are plenty of people around here who would rather have seen him run his car's engine in the garage with the door closed than leave that perfectly lovely woman he was married to.)

[Trust but Verify]

prostrate cancer

it's p-r-o-s-t-a-t-e. Get it right. It bugs me when people can't get that right.

[Trust but Verify]

Don't you know, if there is even one thing you disagree with someone about, they are off the list. They are as good as dead because we cannot tolerate any differences of opinion.

[liberalnot]

s-o-o-o sorry!

[Miss Marple]

I often think that some of these folks are sent here byDU to impersonate conservatives. If I thought that all conservatives were like these people, I would probably become an Independent.

[Aquinasfan]

The very model of the modern Catholic couple. Ugh.

My sentiments too. We can't know the state of his soul, but his position regarding abortion is a strong indication. We will know them by what they do.

If Guiliani is ever on a presidential ticket, I'm off.