Israel formally approves the 'road map'

Jerusalem Post ^ | May. 25, 2003 | THE JERUSALEM POST INTERNET STAFF

[AlbionGirl]

I think it was relatively safe for Sharon to 'accept' the roadmap because he knows that the Palestinians are incapable of introspection, self-control and/or delayed gratification. As always, they will be the first to contravene the agreement, and re-create a hot stalemate.

Europe's hatred of the Jewish people is inveterate, and while it certainly needs to be watched it is pointless to try and massage their viewpoint. They understand a good, hard backhand, and nothing else.

Russia and China, I can't comment on because I don't know a thing about their proclivities towards the Jewish population.

Israel's security is directly tied to a strong alliance with the United States. And only the disintegration of that alliance can undermine Israel's stability. I don't think that will ever occur, and I hope that it never occurs. Hopefully, President Bush's plan to have a presence in the ME (via Iraq) can reinforce Israel's security should she need it.

I have often wondered how a people get used to living under a constant threat of death. I know that if the US suffered the kind of relentless attacks Israel does by a single group, it would be near impossible for me not to look upon the terrorists as subhuman, and desire their wholesale destruction with zeal. I know intellectually that's wrong, but living under constant threat of death would alter me, I know it would.

Two or three years ago I was wont to sympathize with the the plight of the Palestininans, but the revelation of what these people hold dear has informed my present lack of sympathy and accord.

[rmlew]

The Encyclopedia Britannica is by no means unbiased. It calls the entire land "Palestine" even 3000 years ago.

Lehi certainly did get involved in terrorism. That is why the Haganah and Etzel betrayed them to the British.

the Irgun/Etzel did take part in unseemly operations in a tit-for-tat with the well armed Arabs and the British whose policies seemed to ensure Jewish slaughter.

[rmlew]

On July 22, 1946, the Irgun blew up a wing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, killing 91 soldiers and civilians (British, Arab, and Jewish).

The deaths occured only because the British refused to evacuate the hotel after they Irgun tipped them off. The Brits gambled with civilian lives.

On April 9, 1947, a group of Irgun commandos raided the Arab village of Dayr Yasin (modern Kefar Sha'ul), killing all 254 of its inhabitants.

Gotta love lies of ommission. The fact that this was a military camp used to close off Jersualem and that the Arabs attacked the Israelis after they had pretended to surrender remains unmentioned.
I hate to think what the Encyclopedia Britannica would say about Us anti-terror operations.

PS. The Hatred of a party that mixes Free Markets and Nationalism is not a conservative trait.

[yonif]

Should the National Alliance wage a successful bombing camapign, do they get North Idaho as their White Homeland?

And the US says it refuses to negotiate with Iran because it is harboring terrorists! What is the PLO harboring? Chickens? No. They are harboring terrorists of course. It is so hypocritical.

[yonif]

He said that ONLY after terrorism, terrorist leadership, and incitement is stopped, then this administration can support a state. THEY DIDN'T DO IT! Still, Bush continues with this foolishness.

[yonif]

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[yonif]

While the US tells Israel to negotiate with terrorists and stop its moves to defeat these terrorists, look at what the US is doing:

Contacts With Tehran Ended - Terrorists in Iran Suspected of Role In Riyadh Blasts

The Bush administration, alarm-ed by intelligence suggesting that al Qaeda operatives in Iran had a role in the May 12 suicide bombings in Saudi Arabia, has cut off once-promising contacts with Iran and appears ready to embrace an aggressive policy of trying to destabilize the Iranian government, administration officials said.

What will it take for the Bush administration to allow Israel to do the same? Israel has been experiencing these bombings for over 55 years! Why can't Israel defeat the terrorist regime of the PA???

You know what, just to make this consistant, I think we should negotiate with Iran /sarcasm

[Phil V.]

Please develop other tools of debate to augment the two presently in your possession - anti-Jew and anti-Semite.

In addition to slandering me you water down and diminish the power of those terms by gratuitously and casually misusing them. It is lazy. It is increasingly ineffective. It is a disservice to Israel. And directed to my posts on this thread, it is a lie.

[yonif]

Also, you will see that the PLO will now change its story. They first said that they can't implement it until Israel accepts it. Now, their story will be that they can't do anything until Israel says it does not want changes to it. They will keep changing their story in an effort to get away from combating terrorism (which is a paradox, as they are terrorists themselves).

[yonif]

Gov't Votes To Accept Palestinian State - With Reservations

http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=43950

The Israeli Government voted to accept the Road Map plan today, recognizing a Palestinian state for the first time. Twelve ministers voted for the plan: Five from the Shinui party, and seven Likud ministers: Ariel Sharon, Sha'ul Mofaz, Silvan Shalom, Meir Sheetrit, Tzippy Livny, Gideon Ezra, and Ehud Olmert.

Ministers Binyamin Netanyahu, Tzachi HaNegbi, Limor Livnat, and Danny Naveh - all of the Likud - abstained.

Seven ministers opposed the plan: Uzi Landau and Yisrael Katz (Likud); Effie Eitam and Zevulun Orlev (NRP); Benny Elon and Avigdor Lieberman (National Union); and Natan Sharansky (Likud-Yisrael B'Aliyah).

The Cabinet meeting lasted close to six hours, and was very stormy at times. Each minister was given a chance to speak. The exact wording of the approved resolution reads as follows:

"The Government of Israel announces that it approves the declaration of the Prime Minister [see item 3 below] regarding the acceptance of the steps included in the Road Map, and resolves that the implementation of the plan will take place contingent upon the 14 comments that Israel submitted to the Americans."

The Cabinet also voted 16-1 that it would not accept the Arabs' claimed "right of return." Only Minister Benny Elon voted against it, explaining that the resolution rules out the return of Arab refugees to the State of Israel - but not to Judea and Samaria. Elon has long said that an influx of millions of Arabs to Yesha would be a tremendous demographic danger to Israel.

Under the banner, "The Road Map is Worse than Oslo," the Yesha Council, Women in Green, and Jewish Leadership organized protests opposite the Prime Minister's Office this morning. Yesha leaders say that a Palestinian state will be a calamity for Israel, and demanded that the Road Map be voted down.

The Likud Party ministers were strongly divided this morning, and Prime Minister Sharon met with them before the Cabinet meeting today. The main threat that Sharon hung over the ministers' heads was that a rejection of the Road Map would lead to a crisis between Jerusalem and the White House. He further tried to convince the ministers to support the plan by noting a "direct connection between Israel's sorry economic state and the security situation."

Mr. Sharon is expected to meet with Palestinian Authority leader Abu Mazen tomorrow, for the second time.

[Thinkin' Gal]

Road map = abomination that brings desolation

And he shall corrupt by flatteries those who do wickedly against the [land] covenant...

Twelve ministers voted for the plan: Five from the Shinui party, and seven Likud ministers: Ariel Sharon, Sha'ul Mofaz, Silvan Shalom, Meir Sheetrit, Tzippy Livny, Gideon Ezra, and Ehud Olmert.

... but the people who know their God shall be strong, and take action:

Under the banner, "The Road Map is Worse than Oslo," the Yesha Council, Women in Green, and Jewish Leadership organized protests opposite the Prime Minister's Office this morning. Yesha leaders say that a Palestinian state will be a calamity for Israel, and demanded that the Road Map be voted down.

[Courier]

"raided the Arab village of Dayr Yasin (modern Kefar Sha'ul), killing all 254 of its inhabitants."

Jayson Blair work for the Encyclopædia Britannica?

You can now and forever disregard anything written in Encyclopædia Britannica.

[yonif]

From Haaretz:

03:56 Hamas on approval of road map: A conspiracy to liquidate the Palestinian cause and resistance

[Hila]

Don't care how many voted yes, it has to be a robust NO way no to the mis-called peace path. No partitioning the land of Israel and never giving a piece to their rabid enemies.

[American in Israel]

Interesting that the zinger and core subject of the talk was missing from this article. Let me include it from another article from Aruzt Sheva;

The Likud Party ministers were strongly divided this morning, and Prime Minister Sharon met with them before the Cabinet meeting today. The main threat that Sharon hung over the ministers' heads was that a rejection of the Road Map would lead to a crisis between Jerusalem and the White House.

[lilylangtree]

Bad move catering to the very people who want to eliminate Israel from the face of the earth. Israel lets down her guard and VABOOM, the terrorists murder more innocents.

[Lijahsbubbe]

You know what, just to make this consistant, I think we should negotiate with Iran /sarcasm

The US roots out terrorists in Afghanistan and dismantles Saddam's regime.

Does it make sense then to turn around and create a terrorist state, with terrorists as their leaders?

[yonif]

Does it make sense then to turn around and create a terrorist state, with terrorists as their leaders?

Of course not. The roadmap, however, does that very same thing.

[The Westerner]

"The main threat that Sharon hung over the ministers' heads was that a rejection of the Road Map would lead to a crisis between Jerusalem and the White House."

I'm sorry to hear that. I hope Powell drops out of this administration soon. I sense his influence in this "crisis" situation. I hope Bush gets a better adviser at State.