Navarro says patrol groups 'threatening;' Spencer, Simcox deny allegation

Sierra Vista (Arizona) Herald/Review ^ | 5/25/03 | Bill Hess

[Tancredo Fan]

Navarro says patrol groups 'threatening;' Spencer, Simcox deny allegation

BY BILL HESS

Sierra Vista (Arizona) Herald/Review -- 5/25/03

DOUGLAS -- Armando Navarro, an outspoken critic of what he calls vigilantes and militias, said two Arizona groups and one from Texas "are threatening our people, the Mexicanos."

He identified the Arizona groups as the American Border Patrol headed by Glenn Spencer and the Citizens Border Patrol Militia organized by Chris Simcox. The Texas organization is Ranch Rescue founded by Jack Foote.

The leaders of two of those groups said Saturday that they aren't threatening Mexicans or anyone else crossing the border illegally, but they are providing information to federal law enforcement agencies so the government can take action.

On Saturday, Navarro warned that the border could erupt into violence if action is not taken to stop Spencer, Simcox and Foote.

Saying he knows people and groups in Mexico who will not hesitate to take up arms against vigilantes and militias, Navarro said the time to eliminate violence along the border is becoming shorter.

However, Navarro denied that he intended to have a confrontation with Spencer or any of the civilian patrol groups this weekend. He said he wanted to have a dialogue with Spencer. However, in a press release from the National Alliance for Human Rights, the subject was "Latino delegation travels to Arizona to confront militia activity."

"I rather would call it a cross-fertilization of information," Navarro said as he sat in the lobby of the Gadsden Hotel. "I basically want to obtain information from him (Spencer) and give him information. We need to learn form each other."

While Spencer said Saturday that he would rather not meet with Navarro, "if he called I would talk to him."

Spencer said Navarro, a political scientist at the University of California Riverside's department of ethnic studies, "is straightening up his organization under the guise of attacking us."

Spencer added that Navarro and his supporters twist the facts of what groups such as the American Border Patrol are doing, inciting people against Spencer by calling him a racist and anti-Mexican. The American Border Patrol is based in Sierra Vista.

Spencer's and Navarro's paths crossed in California, where another of Spencer's organizations -- the American Patrol -- was established.

Navarro and his supporters are now coming to Arizona to continue the battle without obtaining the real facts and without getting their hands dirty, leaving the actions to others, Spencer said.

"They want to be gladiators without going into the coliseum," he said.

Simcox said Saturday that the actual name of his group is Civil Homeland Defense, which is based in Tombstone. He said he debated Navarro in the past, and sees no problem with what Civil Homeland Defense is doing.

"We have not broken any law, and there have been no complaints," Simcox said.

He described his organization as a neighborhood watch group, which in the process of looking for illegal immigrants has "saved quite a few of their lives."

Navarro said he was in Southern Arizona in 2000 on an initial fact-finding mission. His trip that began Thursday in Phoenix is to help establish a network of groups, which he said is ineffectual in making a united stand against the anti-immigration organizations.

In the press release, Navarro said the organizations such as Spencer's, Simcox's and Foote's are armed terrorists.

During the interview in the hotel lobby, he said the United States is on the look out for international terrorists but is doing nothing about the terrorists on the United States side of the border.

Cochise County Sheriff Larry Dever said he has not had problems with any civilian patrol organizations. He added that the group being developed by Navarro will polarize the border even further.

"There will be some kind of violent confrontation," the county sheriff said.

Although the extremes of both sides are problems, the sheriff said the groups will not get any trouble from his department as long as they stay within the law and only do things that are legal.

If any person or organization makes a criminal action, Dever said he will act, as per his constitutional responsibilities.

Douglas Mayor Ray Borane, who is not a supporter of Spencer, Simcox or Foote, said he cannot support the actions of Navarro either. Both sides are too volatile and use inaccurate information to build up support and "their rhetoric is doing harm," he said.

The possibility the situation will get out of hand cannot be underestimated, the Douglas mayor said. "It is explosive."

Borane said the U.S. and Mexican governments' inaction is to blame for the creation of citizen patrols and their adversaries.

Felipe Aguirre, who came from California as a representative of Pro Uno, a group he described as a self-help organization for immigrants, said that what has to be stopped are the people dying in the deserts.

He and others, including Borane, call for a new guest-worker program, to allow Mexican workers into the United States legally.

"We have to find a humane way to bring in people legally, not illegally," Aguirre said.

Criminals on both sides of the border entice individuals seeking employment and a better way of life to illegally enter the United States, which is the cause of the problems, he said.

"The United States has always seen Mexico as a source of cheap labor," he said.

Navarro said there is a lack of cohesion among Hispanic leaders, especially those in Congress, when addressing the immigration problem. Recently elected U.S. Rep. Ral Grijalva, D-Ariz., whose district includes a large part of the border, has given some help, Navarro said. Unfortunately, Grijalva "is like Moses in the wilderness and no one is listening to him," Navarro said.

As for the goal of Mexicans to take back the Southwest, as Spencer says, it is the real reason for the migration, Navarro said.

"If the country (the United States) denies us, we have to consider all options," he said.

One of the options is what Spencer has been talking about -- the return of the Southwest to Mexico, Navarro said. In the next quarter of a century, demographics and other political factors will determine what happens, he said.

SENIOR REPORTER Bill Hess can be reached at 458-9440 Ext. 115 or by e-mail at bill.hess@svherald.com.

[AmericanVictory]

Under Bill Clinton we started a process of becoming more and more like Mexico. Is this good, or should we say that a corrollary of the Bush policy is that Mexico should become more like the U.S. in its governmental and constitutional forms as well as in the actual conduct of its government? It seems it must be one or the other. The present drift under which our supposed leaders apart from Tancredo and a handful of others kowtow to the "Reconquista" is unacceptable.

[janetgreen]

I just looked at the UC Riverside (CA) website, and Armando Navarro isn't the only Navarro on the teaching staff. There are two more. Wonder if they're related? I intend to write to the University President and send him copies of some of the "ethnic studies" professor's rantings.

Here's Armando's e-mail address in case anyone wants to write to him and ask him if he knows what sedition means.

armando.navarro@ucr.edu

[Bernard Marx]

Here's Armando's e-mail address in case anyone wants to write to him and ask him if he knows what sedition means

Why don't we start writing our own President and our so-called "representatives" and ask them the same question? How far are the Feds going to let this stuff go before they're shamed into taking real action?

[janetgreen]

I write the President, my so-called Senators and Representative. None of them are interested. I also keep the free fax machine at numbersusa.com humming! Trying to make a dent in the pro-illegal alien lobby is tough, but if enough people do it, they might listen.

[FITZ]

No foreign national can directly participate in the march or they will be expelled and not allowed to return to Mexico for ten years.

We need a similar policy here. We should expel Navarro and all his followers ---they can just live in Mexico since they prefer their own culture so much. Mexico means it too ---you cannot participate in any way in the protests over there.

[FITZ]

But, but, they are not really communist they will sputter... Oh yea?

They definitely are Communist and many of the Mexican Communists are supported by Castro. Obviously the Communists are what is behind a certain type of illegal immigration ---they feel very threatened by the thought of it being cut it because it thwarts their agenda. This isn't the same Chicano movement that was led by Cesar Chavez ---he was against illegal immigration ---he actually had his guys on the border trying to stop immigration.

[Spiff]

The guy is the Brown version of the KKK,

Navarro was one of the founders of the militant "United Race Party" (La Raza Unida) in the United States. The only thing missing was the white sheet and hood. He's a militant racist and she be exposed and treated as such.

Navarro is a regular contributor to The Voice of Aztlan (La Voz de Aztlan), the official Aztlan publication of the Revolutionary Council and Provisional Government of Aztlan. La Voz de Aztlan is open anti-Semetic and pro-Palestinian terrorist. Their logo is a black eagle carrying a bloodied weapon in its right talon and a lighted stick of dynamite in its left talon with the words "The Union Makes the Force (La Union Hace la Fuerza)" underneath.

Navarro is a big supporter of the Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (M.E.Ch.A. - Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan) which has a chapter on almost every major college campus and in hundreds of high schools throughout the U.S. His writings are listed by MEChA as part of "The Philosophy of MEChA". Their charter, called The Spiritual Plan of Aztlan (El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan) includes such racist gems as:

• "Aztlan belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. We do not recognize capricious frontiers on the bronze continent"
• "Brotherhood unites us, and love for our brothers makes us a people whose time has come and who struggles against the foreigner "gabacho" ("gabacho" is a derogatory term meaning, essentially, "white nigger") who exploits our riches and destroys our culture."
• "We are a bronze people with a bronze culture"
• "For The Race, All. Outside The Race, Nothing. (For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada)"

They share the eagle logo of La Voz de Aztlan:

Armando Navarro, professor, University of California to "Chicano" students: ". . . you are like the generals who command armies! We're in a state of war!"

He has made clear that he is a violent racist desiring overthrow, by force, of the state governments and federal authorities in the SouthWest area to establish a nation called Aztlan. He stated in the Sierra Vista Herald article that the "immigration" invasion is part of his plan to overthrow the government of the region to establish Aztlan. He should be arrested for threatening to overthrow the government. His organizations should share the same fate as another racist organization - Aryan Nation - in that his assets should be seized and his facilities bulldozed. Where's Morris Dees, the ACLU, and other so-called "civil rights" organizations?

[Tancredo Fan]

Where's Morris Dees, the ACLU, and other so-called "civil rights" organizations?

Could it be that Morris Sleaze is of the same ilk as the vile anti-American 'Chicano activists' (whatever that is) Navarro is and is associated with? Hmmmm... could be.

[Spiff]

Great post. The pictures and quotes demonstrate the violent racist militancy engaged in by Navarro and his Aztlan seditionists.

Here's pictures from a march last year (Oct 12, 2002) in Nogales, Sonora just across the border from Arizona - a hop, skip, and a jump from my backyard:

Red banner depicting armed, masked Aztlan warrior

Banner from Isabel Garcia's group (Garcia is Pima County Legal Defender) depicting Mexico and South West U.S. as one Aztlan nation

Angry, masked militant protestors

Notice all the red banners? Where have we seen that before?

More red banners

My favorite - Two Aztlan women (one breaking chains the other carrying a human heart in a jar) in front of a dead white woman (That must be HER heart, then) all in front of some Aztec crap

Notice the highlighted Anarchy symbol

This is what Navarro and his type are all about. Violent, racist revolution. We tolerate them and their organizations at our own risk.

[BlueOneGolf]

2nd Amendment, Law-Abiding citizen, Pro-American BUMP!!!

Saying he knows people and groups in Mexico who will not hesitate to take up arms against vigilantes and militias, Navarro said the time to eliminate violence along the border is becoming shorter.

I can see this knucklehead's strategy. He rounds up his hooligans to begin skirmishes with the militias and law enforcement gets involved in the fight. As the situation deteriorates the U.S. Military starts deploying to the border to assist. The Mexican Communists and druggie cartels start harrassing the military and eventually a full blown U.S. vs. Mexico confrontation erupts and who knows where it goes from there. No I'm not a conspiracy theorist but this scenario is plausible under the right circumstances.

Navarro said he was in Southern Arizona in 2000 on an initial fact-finding mission. His trip that began Thursday in Phoenix is to help establish a network of groups, which he said is ineffectual in making a united stand against the anti-immigration organizations.

Notice the term "anti-immigration organizations" I'll give the militias the benefit of the doubt and assume they're not "anti-immigration" period, just anti-ILLEGAL immigration. These Citizens are doing the right thing by assisting law enforcement in securing our border and I salute them for their "unofficial" service to our Republic.

[Amerigomag]

Navarro, a political scientist at the University of California Riverside's department of ethnic studies

Two things come to mind.

Two studies have shown that the more educated the children of illegal aliens, the more they cost the taxpayer...in this case, a professor's salary.

If Davis is desperate to reduce education costs in California I've got a sugestion where to start.

[henderson field]

Mr. Navarro has been spending too much time reading Alice & Wonderland: "a word means nothing less or nothing more than what I choose it to mean." We need to protect Mexican from Americans? Or maybe we need to protect Americans from agressive Mexicans? Who is coming into whose country?

[henderson field]

A Marxist Mexicano? You got that right. And he's not the only one. Far from it.

[henderson field]

Yes, give the citizens of Mexico guns and ammo, and let them decide what to do with them.

[henderson field]

What are the black masks for?

[TLI]

I have no idea... maybe they think they look cool, HAHAHAHA!
Let me go get a pic, ya just gotta see this one guy. Spiff is right, they are HEAVY into the Castro thing...

[grania]

I'm getting awfully sick of these traitors. If the illegals feel threatened, then maybe, just maybe, they shouldn't be here illegally.....duh.

Just one question, Tancredo Fan. Even here in Massachusetts, just about everyone says if a third party comes along, promising US jobs for US citizens, closing the border to those who don't need to be here, sending home illegals who usurp our resources and undermine our culture and economy, sending home all foreigners whose jobs can be done by qualified US citizens, that party could win. All it takes is a plurality. All Tancredo has to do is find a vote getter who has a lot of voter appeal and is as clean as he is, and has a lot of appeal. Jesse Ventura?

But they better get their acts together soon. I really, really believe that the future of the US is at stake. In a way, we're lucky that security concerns bought us time before our nation is swept away by this globalist, elitist trash. If that's not gonna' happen, why should we even bother?

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss...."

[TLI]

Ok  found it, check out this, it is none other than....

  
Subcomandante Marcos !  (who?)

more...

Six additional Zapatistas. Two of them are Comandantas.

My favorite . . . it's just inspiring,  and my dog f@rted too!

Like spiff indicated, heavy into the Castro hero worship...

[liberalnot]

you assume that this guy has more power than he has.

1. navarro thinks that all mexicans believe what he believes. wrong. they do not. the majority don't want anything to do with his radical politics. the vast majority of mexican immigrants assimilate. those who don't, live their lives in enclaves and pass away, as did european immigrants.

as with europeans, their children assimilate.

2. those who do believe as he does are students, captive to chicano studies programs.

after they graduate, they get married and have kids, and discover, hey! this socialist-chicano studies degree ain't worth ----. now they're in the workplace and chicano politics goes nowhere in the workplace.

it's parallel to radical feminism. it works for a while, for a few, but as time goes on, people find they're more interested in buying houses, having babies, and making money.

mexican immigrants that i know, want nothing to do with mexico or this bozo.

[Salem]

"mexican immigrants that i know, want nothing to do with mexico or this bozo."

I agree. Most Mexican immigrants I know - and I know a lot - wish these idiots would just shut up and go away. They don't because the liberal media gives them print - for the sake of fairness and "objectivity." Yeah, right. These racist nutjobs and their murderous views are sensationalistic and lurid, so sell more papers.