Sex and abstinence: Wait loss

World Net Daily ^ | 5-27-03 | Rebecca Hagelin

[LiteKeeper]

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[myprecious]

If we engage in watching raunchy videos, use foul language or cave-in to the cultural pressures on us as adults, how can we expect them as children, to not give-in to pressure?

How about our own relationship behavior? Many of the my kids' peers have fractured families - living with mom and her latest boyfriend, staying every other weekend with dad and his fiance. Children need to see abstinance in practice before they can create it in their own lives.

I understand how harsh this sounds. I was a single mom for many years. Let me tell you that "waiting" during a mature relationship is VERY difficult, but worth it!

I love it when my husband kisses me in front of the teen girls. They tease us, but I just tell them - we have God's permission to kiss. They really enjoy the joke too.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

My Dad read to me from a book about the Holy Virgin Mary, then told me he wished children were born without their sex organs.

I asked him what "swaddling clothes" were so he wouldn't know I already knew that people probably had babies the same way rabbits and dogs did.

Parents who act like sex, married or unmarried, is the most horrible thing on earth do their children no favors.

[RAT Patrol]

Parents who act like sex, married or unmarried, is the most horrible thing on earth do their children no favors.

Is there some kind of implied "horrible" in waiting?

[Wright is right!]

Ms. Hagelin seems to equate a movie's "R" rating with sex, which I'd call a knee-jerk self-righteous and inflexible stance. There are a lot of worthwhile films rated R that have little if any sexual content. "Saving Private Ryan" was most certainly rated R and just as certainly wasn't about sex AT ALL. This woman seems to think that a movie about adult themes must necessarily be a movie about sex...to my mind, a fallacious endeavor. Plus, to NEVER expose an adolescent to the view of ANY sexuality at all is pretty ostrich-like.

While I applaud her zeal in maintaining a home free from licentious entertainment, she's painting with an overwide brush when it comes to movies - and, I suspect, other things , too. We do need to promote healthy values in our offspring, but I question coddling to such a degree that these young adults might be ill-equipped to handle the real world. After all, we've already artificially prolonged childhood to the age of 21 - you can't make them stay kids forever.

Michael

[Wright is right!]

"Parents who act like sex, married or unmarried, is the most horrible thing on earth do their children no favors."

Yes, sex is horrible but violence is OKEY DOKEY! Bass-ackwards. We can't show two people sharing love and intimacy, but we CAN show people killing each other. Sheesh.

Michael

[Age of Reason]

she said but one word when I finished, "Yucky."

I've known some grown women who seem to have the same opinion!

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Is there some kind of implied "horrible" in waiting?

You didn't read what I said. My Dad said he wished children were born without their sex organs. He scared the Hell out of me. He did not believe in sparing the rod. For all I knew he believed in castration, though I really wouldn't have known what that was. All I knew was that I should never act like I knew anything about sex and never speak to a girl if I knew what was good for me.

[RAT Patrol]

We have a no nudity standard so, surprisingly, many times that means viewing the R movie and not the PG-13 movie. Also, we don't go for the gay/lesbian movies, which lately has eliminated a lot of pictures.

The interesting thing about film is that people change their standards because it's just pretend. Well, maybe the sex is pretend and the murder is pretend but the nudity isn't. I have no interest in going to strip clubs either.

I bought an unrated Agatha Christy movie a few weeks ago and it had nudity in it. I couldn't believe it. I used to watch those movies on TV, so I guess they were just edited versions.

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

You dad told you he wished children were born without sex organs? Huh?

[ppaul]

He scared the Hell out of me. He did not believe in sparing the rod. For all I knew he believed in castration, though I really wouldn't have known what that was. All I knew was that I should never act like I knew anything about sex and never speak to a girl if I knew what was good for me.

Cut your dad some slack and honor him for his effort to raise you right. You're on FR, so he must have done some things right. For all of his shortcomings (we all have them), he probably saved you a lot of grief down the road (and he probably saved some girls from a lot of grief too, indirectly). The prisons are full of little boys who grew up without a dad who "did not spare the rod".

[E. Pluribus Unum]

You dad told you he wished children were born without sex organs? Huh?

When he gave me my sex talk at fourteen.

[RAT Patrol]

I did read what you said. Maybe I just missed what you meant.

I hope this will not offend you but your dad sounds a little crazy.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

he probably saved you a lot of grief down the road (and he probably saved some girls from a lot of grief too, indirectly).

Who is more likely to think of women as sex objects?

1) A boy/man who has known and interacted with females all his life?

2) A boy/man whose parents sent him to all-boy schools specifically so he could never be around girls, and who never even spoke to one until he started college?

[E. Pluribus Unum]

I hope this will not offend you but your dad sounds a little crazy.

He thinks of it as Holy.

[Skywalk]

This is true. For all my negative feelings about Collective Woman in Western Society, I never treat an individual woman poorly(unless she says or does something terrible to cause a drop in respect.) I can only imagine that being around female relatives a lot, while having men that weren't disrespectful to women(without being tight-lipped about sexuality) was of great aid to me.

Sorry to hear about your dad. I guess while I'd be afraid of my daughter or son engaging in crazy behavior I wouldn't go so far as to wish people were born without sexual organs(HECK NO!)

[Simcha7]

Excellent Post!

Thank You.

[talleyman]

I wouldn't go so far as to wish people were born without sexual organs

Look at the functional aspect: how else can you carry your wallet, some pretzels and a beer on a nude beach?

[=Intervention=]

Show me a film where sex is treated as a part of love and part of a responsible love. Your assumption is that sex is treated this way by most Hollywood films and that is completely and totally fallacious.