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This column (to be a weekly feature) is from the website for the book Knowing Me, Knowing You: A Multiple Choice Quiz for Engaged Couples.

This book was featured on Dr. Laura yesterday and has zoomed up in the Amazon rankings. At last check it was ranked no. 79 and gunning for Living History at no. 35.

It was written by a certain FR member's wife, and he helped enough to be graciously granted co-author status (blush).

If you have a minute, please visit the site to answer the poll question (sorry, it's not a live poll), or post your opinion below.

1 posted on 05/28/2003 1:23:03 PM PDT by MalcolmS
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To: MalcolmS
I think getting rid of no-fault divorce, while not the total answer, would certainly significantly lower the divorce rate.
2 posted on 05/28/2003 1:28:59 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: MalcolmS
bump for later read
3 posted on 05/28/2003 1:29:09 PM PDT by netmilsmom (God Bless our President, those with him & our troops)
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To: MalcolmS
thanks for the post. Not sure if any of the proposals outlined here will help. I wasted several hours this weekend watching a slow-motion trainwreck beginning: my divorced brother-in-law "married" a woman who has already notched up TWO previous divorces .... His parents(my -inlaws) have been married 43 years; his big brother & I married 20. So none of this happened for lack of successful examples. Six children by three fathers are being manipulated in this situation and I cannot foresee it getting better with time.
4 posted on 05/28/2003 1:32:23 PM PDT by Temple Drake ("till death do us part -- REALLY, I MEAN it this time!")
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To: MalcolmS
I'm not sure that the numbers posted here mean all that much on their own. Divorce statistics among different nations should first be adjusted to account for variations in co-habitation without ever getting married. The U.S. may simply have a high divorce rate because more people are getting married who might otherwise have been cohabitating in other countries.
5 posted on 05/28/2003 1:32:31 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: MalcolmS
The poll left out some other possible reasons for divorce.

1. You accidently married a shrew
2. She jumped from 120 to 230lbs in less than a year and won't get off her @$$ to do anything about it.
3. She asks your opinions but does whatever the hell she wants anyway.
4. She invites her liberal democrat mom over to stay for weeks at a time
5. Everytime you leave the house to go to Home Depot she snidely asks, "Going to see your girlfriend again?"

Uh, at least that's what I've heard can happen...

6 posted on 05/28/2003 1:40:54 PM PDT by Hatteras (The Thundering Herd Of Turtles ROCK!)
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To: MalcolmS
Committed married couples should befriend and mentor engaged couples. They should counsel and encourage them before they are married

Are you sure this wasn't Dr. Laura herself that wrote this ?

IMHO the ball is in the engaged couples court, if they fear a possible failure in their future life together and wish to avoid it, it is them that should actively seek advice and guidance.

Most people do not want unsolicited advice and will resist and or resent it.
7 posted on 05/28/2003 1:42:47 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS
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Well of course there are many reasons for this situation including the sexual revolution and yuppie narcissism. But one of the main reasons is that corrupt lawyers have taken over the divorce courts and take turns acting as judges and as divorce lawyers--and also as the legislators who put the no-fault divorce laws in place.

There's big money in divorce--for the lawyers. No fault divorce is very good for business.

There was an excellent article on this subject in Crisis Magazine last fall. In fact, I think I'll post it here in the forum. Meanwhile, here's a link:

http://www.crisismagazine.com/november2002/feature2.htm
9 posted on 05/28/2003 1:43:38 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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What are the stats if we exclude Liz Taylor and Larry King?
10 posted on 05/28/2003 1:44:33 PM PDT by sharktrager (There are 2 kids of people in this world: people with loaded guns and people who dig.)
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Why is the USA the World's Divorce Leader? (Poll + FReeper's book on Dr. Laura)

AFFLUENCE

11 posted on 05/28/2003 1:45:43 PM PDT by Helms (Dems Find Smoking Gun: 45-55 Loss in Senate, Bush Wins 2nd Term)
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"why is the American divorce rate so high? "

The answer is quite simple. American feminists.
12 posted on 05/28/2003 1:49:35 PM PDT by week 71
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Why is the USA the World's Divorce Leader?

Because we can afford to be.
Divorce is facilitated by afluance.
If others could afford it, they would.

So9

16 posted on 05/28/2003 1:53:23 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine (A Goldwater Republican)
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I question the author's conclusions, at least by looking at comparative divorce statistics within the United States.

These statistics show no evidence that social conservatism, as generally understood, reduces divorce rates. Rather, the very strong correllation is to education and economic status.

Percentage of weekly churchgoers, views on abortion and other "social issue" touchstones, etc., tend to correllate positively with the WORST divorce rates, whereas places like Connecticut and New Jersey, which score very poorly on the social issue measures, have much lower divorce rates.

This makes perfect sense to me. The catalyst to many divorces are money problems or substance abuse -- which are going to effect those of lesser education or status with far greater frequency. The thing that keeps many unhappy couples together is the way that divorce can simply ruin a middle class family financially -- losing a house or the ability to have a nice vacation to Europe each year simply doesn't figure to a family that lives in a rented 2-bedroom apartment.
19 posted on 05/28/2003 1:55:55 PM PDT by only1percent
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Until death do us part. Or until one of us gets double really really mad. Too many people quit too soon. One of the best blessings of marriage is facing the hard times together and winning sometimes. An then there's kids....
Oh nevermind......
24 posted on 05/28/2003 2:10:08 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody got a peanut.....)
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The liberals promoted a program - if it feels good do it - nobody argued ... of if they did, the mainstream media at the time ignored it.
29 posted on 05/28/2003 2:28:26 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: MalcolmS
bump
32 posted on 05/28/2003 2:57:07 PM PDT by Lady Eileen
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I'm sorry, but I pay absolutely no attention at all, nor is it possible for me to care less, to anything that hypocritical judgmental shrew who didn't even care enough about her own mother to check on her before she killed herself has to say, especially about matters that are none of her business, like other people's marriages, divorces, children, etc. Divorced people (like her) who make a career out of slamming other divorced people have no place at all in my mind.
34 posted on 05/28/2003 3:06:03 PM PDT by Roxymoron
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Marriage will soon disappear, sooner here because America is in fact the future of the world. Child-bearing will also be a thing of the past. Babies will be created in gov't labs and reared in gov't nurseries. And they'll all look the same and get standard gov't education. Happening right before our eyes.
38 posted on 05/28/2003 3:22:07 PM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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To: MalcolmS
Divorce stinks but sometimes can't be avoided.
51 posted on 05/28/2003 3:58:52 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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Divorce rates are utterly useless statistics. They usually compare the number marriages against to number of divorces in a single year. But the population of marriages which could potentially end in divorce is obviously going to be much higher than the number of weddings.
54 posted on 05/28/2003 4:49:38 PM PDT by MattAMiller (Iraq was liberated in my name, how about yours?)
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To: MalcolmS
After 32 [mostly] blissful years, I can sum my "how to avoid divorce" advice up in three questions.

1. [Before you get married] Do I want to be married or single? If you answer single, or I'm not sure, stay single. Do not proceed to questions 2. or 3.

2. How would divorce and re-marriage to someone else NOT be trading one set of problems for another set?

3. [After you have children] What did my kids do to deserve the heartache their parents' divorce would cause them?

57 posted on 05/28/2003 5:58:44 PM PDT by laredo44
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