Military History of the Great Powers(The complete list)

Me ^ | 5/28/2003 | Me

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Good point the afghan campaigns. But the brits never really took control of Afghanistan, the wars were more a series of aborted invasions and no real full scale battles.

[John H K]

600 AD Anglo-Saxon Invasion- Won Celts eliminated by modern inhabitants of Britain(Legend of Arthur born of that era).

Article posted on FR a few days ago about a recent DNA study revealed that modern inhabitants of the British Isles are overwhelmingly Celtic and there's surprisingly little Anglo-Saxon DNA present.

So they weren't eliminated. Big difference between conquered and eliminated. It now seems the Anglo-Saxon invasion was like the Normans, a very small elite that came in and took over, not a mass migration.

[John H K]

1337 AD Hundred Years War- Won (Mostly) English Longbowmen slaughtered the French nobility in a series of one-sided battles. War ended with the English in control of Normandy and Castile.

Indisputably LOST by the English, even though they won all the big battles, interestingly.

They began the war controlling most of France and France was a small and weak state, and at the end they controlled very little of France and France had become quite powerful.

Castile is the central province of Spain, not France, and I don't believe the British ever controlled it in this war. Did you mean some pother province?

[NP-INCOMPLETE]

Remember, Castile wasn't part of Spain in that Spain itself wasn't a unified nation. It was a collection of feudal christian states and muslim moorish states. In fact, that area was in dispute by both the French and English nobility of the time.

[John H K]

1812 AD War of 1812- Lost, British again defeated by their own colonists.

IMHO this war was won by Britain; at best, it was a draw. In no way, shape, or form did America win.

The main reason the war was started was so we could conquer Canada. (Forget all that business about impressing sailors and whatnot...that was the cover story. And the British actually gave in on those demands prior to us declaring war, though we didn't find out about it till after we declared war.)

We failed completely in Conquering Canada, our main war aim. Hence, we lost.

For obvious reasons the victories of the Constitution and other frigates, the Battle of Lake Erie, and the Battle of New Orleans, are emphasized in the US, while the battles of Bladensburg and a lot of really embarassing US losses on the Canadian border (most of the fighting in the war was on this border) are not mentioned much if at all. Even the burning of Washington doesn't get all that much play.

[FreedomPoster]

Re: Sino-Japanese War

From the Democide statistics summary page, here:
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM
it appears that R.J. Rummel estimate the Chinese deaths at around 6 million caused by the Japanese, around 10 million caused by the KMT keeping power, around 3.5 million caused by the ChiComs, and another 900,000 by various warlords.

However, if you look at his details page, here:
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.TAB16A.1.GIF
there are low, middle, and high range estimates for deaths. From a quick look, it appears that the sum of the high-range estimates for China in this period (roughly 1928-1949) would yield around 40 million. Then pile on another 100 million for the communists 1949-1987.

This is a very useful page to have handy when debating Leftists as to the evil of Communists.

[PGalt]

Thanks very much for the history.

[headsonpikes]

Interesting thought....WAY too many errors!

Major errors. Seriesly. Hugh ones. ;^)

[RussianConservative]

1240 AD Mongol Invasion of Novogrod- Lost Mongels proceeded to defeat the state of Novogrod, thus consolidating Western Russia along with the eastern portion into the Kahnate of the Golden Horde. About 40% of entire population of European Russia killed due to Mongol invasions.

Not correct, Novograd never fell to Mongols, swamps melted and horde turned south to Kiev. After Catholics betray Orthodox by sending first Lithuanians (defeated on Nevo river) then Tuetonics, Saint Prince Alexander Nevski allied with Mongols against Catholics.

PS: missed the whole Russian Kieven wars against Kazars (won) against Constintinople (won) against various barbaric nomads (upto Mongols) won.

[RussianConservative]

Well if not for US in WW1 and WW2 England would loose.

[RussianConservative]

Don't forget Sudanese defeated british. Also initial Zulu wars defeated British.

[RussianConservative]

1899 AD Anglo-Boer War- Won British forces slaughtered the Dutch settlers and took control of Rhodesia and the northern portion of South Africa.

There were two Boer wars...first not victory.

[RussianConservative]

1887 AD Sino-Russian War-Lost Russia took most of Siberia

Most Siberia never in Chinese hands...only SE Siberia, north of Manchuria.

[RussianConservative]

cira 300 AD proto-Scots (Irish) invade and exterminate Picts in Pictland..aka Scotland.

[RussianConservative]

1793 AD Napoleonic Wars- Won, Duke of Wellington destroyed Napoleon's armies at the Battle of Warterloo.

That was second Napoleonic Wars, first defeated by Russia. Russian occupation of Paris.

[NP-INCOMPLETE]

If I have not read incorrectly, SE siberia is a landmass greater than the size of western Europe, not an insignificant piece of territory to gain from a war.

[NP-INCOMPLETE]

One 1 boer war, it was a series of fairly pitched battles though. But the brits definitely won in the end.

[RussianConservative]

True, but most Chinese presence very limited to a few forts and trade posts. Most locals happy when Cossaks arrived to drive out Chinese and entered Russian empire willingly...Cossaks left the alone and intermarried...Chinese treat them as subhuman.

[NP-INCOMPLETE]

There was only 1 battle in the Zulu war in which the brits were defeated. One victorious battle does not a make a victorious war.

[RussianConservative]

The Boer Wars was the name given to the South African Wars of 1880-1 and 1899-1902, that were fought between the British and the descendants of the Dutch settlers (Boers) in Africa. After the first Boer War William Gladstone granted the Boers self-government in the Transvaal