Wilderness bewilderment (Nature Conservancy Eco-Scandal)

The Guardian (U.K.) ^ | 29 May 2003 | Oliver Burkeman

[farmfriend]

First Afghanistan, then Iraq, and now the greenies!

Make that Watermelons.

[Paul C. Jesup]

Nature Conservancy felled trees, allegedly drilled for gas beneath the last breeding-ground of an endangered bird and sold unspoilt land at discounted prices to its trustees. so they could build luxury homes in some of America's most beautiful landscapes, according to the Washington Post, which spent two years investigating its activities.

Oh it is going to be so much fun watching this PR time bomb go off.

[countrydummy]

Wait, this is from the Guardian....out of the UK????? I am so impressed!!!!!!!!!! I am shocked and awed for sure! They are telling the whole truth! I just can't believe that a UK paper would bash TNC (like it so justly deserves)!!!!

[farmfriend]

Not so odd when you consider this started with the Washington Post. It's amazes me that they even did this investigation let alone spend two years at it.

[nutmeg]

read later bump

[countrydummy]

You know it might not be a bad idea for some of us like minded folks to get some funds together and have ads placed in the big papers, expsosing these jerks!!!! I am for it!

[countrydummy]

these folks don't follow the law! Here is some proof. In almost all cases if one does all the needed research and studies American history allot more than we were taught, one can trace their deeds all the way back to the original land patent.....were lands are granted in "perpetuity"! Meaning that the original land owner and his "assigns" have all the rights to the lands forever!!!! Now, these folks know this, know there has NEVER been an Act of Congress that would circumvent the land patents.....but you see, once they get the land, they also become an "assign", and thus they are stealing the land patents using ,IMHO, undue influence, color of law and intimidation of Law...unconstitutional laws(laws that inflect injury without just compensation....and I have a real problem with National Parks being a needful building) that can't refute the law of the land....the treaties!!!!!! Yet they are getting by with this because the American public is uneducated about land patents and the way the lands of the US were all to be allocated to the American citizens!!!!!!!!! As the Bible says, "My people suffer from lack of knowledge"...

[countrydummy]

ping!

[countrydummy]

I am for the land rights organizations pitching in and doing it!

[countrydummy]

You are right! I do believe it was TNC going to buy the land and run a hemp farming industry!!!!!

[countrydummy]

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[firewalk]

bump to read later...

[countrydummy]

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[AAABEST]

This is so rich. It's about time these creepy robber baron scumbags are exposed for what they are.

This is just one prong of the attack. Mark Levin - FReeper and head of Landmark Legal Foundation- is putting the boot in their asses as well. Hallelujah.

[Joe Brower]

Yeah -- wow. Gross hypocrisy on the part of the radical left.

Who'd a thunk it?

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!!

[Rocky]

Mark Hertsgaard, author of the book Earth Odyssey, said: "I don't see how you could make up a worse scenario than that I think it tells you something about the lack of accountability in the movement, and the lack of an atmosphere in which people are going to call each other on things.

"It really points to a much bigger problem, which is, how do you deal with corporate power and capitalism."

Leftists always have to bash capitalism. This incident had nothing to do with capitalism and everything to do with abuse of power and abuse of trust. I suppose this never happens in a socialist society, right? You can't escape greed and selfishness, no matter what economic system you have. And government control is an abysmal failure in most cases. But every time some such scandal arises, Leftists bash capitalism, and their only answer is more government control.

[TonyWojo]

As for the conservation buyer scheme, Ms Peavey insisted that it did not entail selling land to conservancy trustees and donors at a loss, because the development restrictions decreased the value. "You're giving up substantial rights to develop, in perpetuity - owners hundreds of years from now will still have to abide by those restrictions," she said. "So while it is true that the land was sold at a cheaper price, it was because it was worth less, by independent appraisals."

Why are they selling land at all?

[BOBTHENAILER]

ROFLMAO. This is too funny. The liberal elites get to build on the pristine lands preserved for generations by the good graces of the nature conservancy (for elite housing).

Oh the horror, gas wells get drilled on NC lands. Birds die, oilspillage, well fires....the horror, the horror.

Their new Motto:

WE PRESERVE THE LAND FOR MILLIONAIRE HOUSING.

To paraphrase little tommy daschle: this is the wrong tax break, for the wrong people, using the wrong lands that we have fought to keep for the working man's future enjoyment.

[Grampa Dave]

Now that the NY Slimes is melting down, other fishwraps will be very careful in trying to defend this monster.

I have no idea of how to even lable TNC. They are not enviral. They are high stakes real estate czars using the green cover to drive prices down, tax money to buy the depressed property and then making large sums of money on their seized lands.

The left wing mediots have known about this for decades and have basically said nothing until recently.