[Stirner]

Ann is great, and global warming is bunk, but I think she's a little off about the aerosol spray. Freon (the banned aerosol propellant and refrigerant) was never implicated in (supposed) global warming, but instead was banned because of evidence that freon damaged the ozone layer that protects us from the Sun's ultraviolet rays. Since the ban, the ozone layer has improved, so there is at least prima facie evidence of the connection. Also, switching to different refrigerants and propellants, while costly, is not an economy-buster. Really decreasing energy production would be.

[corkoman]

Since the ban, the ozone layer has improved, so there is at least prima facie evidence of the connection...

Hardly, just because of its ban in the USA doesnt mean its not getting vented in to the worlds atmosphere any less than it ever was. Lots of 3rd world compressors are still on Freon. Further, the "half-life" of the chloroflurocarbons is supposed to be a bazillion years - so clearly that ban cannot have anything to do with the "recovery" of the ozone hole.

PERHAPS there are natural variations in the ozone hole and that with longer periods of observation we will become familiar with these variations. Until then the Chicked Littles will Rule Our World.

Junk Science is like junk food.

[Eagles2003]

Yea right. Please tell me how a gas that's heavier than air (normal 80% N mix) sinks to the ground and disintegrates in 3-4 days can somehow jump up and deplete the ozone layer.

I'm getting sick and F***ing tired of morons.

[Eagles2003]

I apologize, I came down a little too strong in my last post.

We've got an DOE that finds a problem with R-12, dioxin and DDT, yet continues to mandate MTBE. Government is liberalism personified.