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Richard Chamberlain Has Been Married For Twenty Years (To a Guy)
TV Guide ^ | 5-30-03 | Mary Murphy

Posted on 05/30/2003 7:58:18 PM PDT by dogbyte12

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To: Hank Rearden
Also their most unwatchable, tabloid-trash twit. Who looks gay as hell.

Post your pic, Hank, so's we can get a gander of someone who don't look gay....

101 posted on 05/30/2003 10:25:50 PM PDT by freebilly (I think they've misunderestimated us....)
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To: Palladin
Oh, sigh....for the good old days when one actually had the class to keep private things private. Truly it is his own business, and I appreciate the fact that he never saw the need to make it a public issue, or, worse.... a public platform as is the current trend.

I've always thought him a gentleman and a multi-faceted actor, and still do. Not so for the in your face "stars" that insist we love them....and their lifestyles, or they will boycott.

WHY do entertainers want to entertain us with their personal OR political preferences? Hopefully, someday the trend for class above crass will return....

In the meantime, do you remember the two or three part Dr. Kildare where he suffers the loss of his "surfer girl..." It was Yvette Mimieux, I think.
102 posted on 05/30/2003 10:32:05 PM PDT by snickeroon
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To: Hank Rearden
(Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)

LOL! That's your tagline and you're saying Shep Smith LOOKS gay!

Course, screwing a Democrat ain't a homosexual act. It's more like bestiality (though intercourse with Algore might qualify as masturbation)....

103 posted on 05/30/2003 10:37:48 PM PDT by freebilly (I think they've misunderestimated us....)
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To: wingnuts'nbolts
LOL
First of all, I did enjoy his miniseries.
Second of all, I always knew he was gay; most people did.
And thirdly, he says he's at peace and is in love with this Rabbet guy.
Okay, when he's in hell for his life of sodomy, I doubt very highly peace will be his judgment. And as far as any sodomite professing love for the same sex; that's not love, that's lust. Love is not evil. God says sodomy is abhorant to Him. End of story.
104 posted on 05/30/2003 10:45:13 PM PDT by MeekMom ((HUGE Ann Coulter Fan!!!) (Life-long Python Addict))
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To: MeekMom
And as far as any sodomite professing love for the same sex; that's not love, that's lust.

I challenge you to watch the agony of a gay lover at the bedside of someone's he's spent his life with and call it lust. God abhors all sin, and who's to say loving someone is a worse sin than cheating your neighbor or making death threats to wiccans (like some of the die-hard so-called Christians at Ft. Hood TX did a few years back).

105 posted on 05/30/2003 10:54:31 PM PDT by Spyder (Just another day in Paradise)
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To: Spyder
Amend that to say "at the bedside of someone dying of AIDS or any other terminal illness"
106 posted on 05/30/2003 10:55:14 PM PDT by Spyder (Just another day in Paradise)
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To: Spyder
Yes, all sin is evil, Spyder. And please don't give us the sob story of someone's agonizing death because of the sinful life they chose to live. A sodomite chooses to sin. No one forces them to sin. And yes, all sins are equal to God.
Chamberlain, like any other sodomite will have no peace eternally.
How do I know this? Because God's Word speaks plain and simple in both the Old and New Testaments on this particular sin.
107 posted on 05/30/2003 11:01:05 PM PDT by MeekMom ((HUGE Ann Coulter Fan!!!) (Life-long Python Addict))
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To: SandyInSeattle
IIRC, Blackthorne wasn't taking advantage of the women sent to him.

Probably the book, but the Japanese attending/guarding him suggested offering him a duck or a young boy instead.

Maybe the series. Been a while.

108 posted on 05/30/2003 11:12:36 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: MeekMom
"And yes, all sins are equal to God."

Lucky they aren't all equal in the courts. Otherwise, shoplifting and murder one would carry equal penalties. Not a pleasant thought, is it?

"Chamberlain, like any other sodomite will have no peace eternally. How do I know this? Because God's Word speaks plain and simple in both the Old and New Testaments on this particular sin."

Well, that's according to the supernatural entity you choose to worship. Is there an objective reason that I should give its opinions precedence over those of the native americans' great spirit or the wiccans' goddess, or any other unprovable supernatural entity?
109 posted on 05/30/2003 11:12:57 PM PDT by jde1953
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To: freebilly
...is that Shepard Smith is gay....

Heard a caller claiming to be a tv cameraman who once worked at a FL tv station when Shep was there. This guy said it was
"common" knowledge at the station.

FWIW.

110 posted on 05/30/2003 11:22:22 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke
is shepard smit a homosexual? not rumor. Has he been asked this directly? it matters.

111 posted on 05/30/2003 11:35:19 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: Calvin Locke
Blackthord reacted with outrage and indignation at the mere notion that he would be a "damn soddomite"
112 posted on 05/30/2003 11:37:20 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: RLK
"To be an actor, a man must be less than a man; to be an actress, a woman must be more than a woman." Bette Davis
113 posted on 05/30/2003 11:50:01 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: dogbyte12
Sorry - he couldn't hold a candle next to TV's he-man doctor: Ben Casey.

114 posted on 05/30/2003 11:57:01 PM PDT by Gigantor (Annoy a gov't worker - demonstrate that they reallty aren't needed...)
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To: blackbart.223
And that begs the question, why would anyone listen to someone who blew his brains out because he didn't have the courage to live?

Not that it justifies Kurt Cobain's bogus philosophies in any way, but he probably didn't commit suicide. He had so much heroin in his bloodstream (much more than the lethal limit according to the autopsy) that he couldn't have been conscious, let alone conscious enough to use a shotgun. The most common solution to this enigma is the belief that his wife had him murdered.

115 posted on 05/31/2003 12:02:01 AM PDT by Technogeeb
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To: Spyder
I challenge you to watch the agony of a gay lover at the bedside of someone's he's spent his life with...

Disgusting! Very immoral.
116 posted on 05/31/2003 12:07:07 AM PDT by Pro-Bush
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To: dogbyte12
um...am I reading the article right ? Is he intimating that Brando is gay ?
117 posted on 05/31/2003 12:28:48 AM PDT by stylin19a (2 wrongs don't make a right.....but 3 rights make a left)
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To: jde1953
Read the first few words of Genesis 1:1
...nuff said.
118 posted on 05/31/2003 12:38:20 AM PDT by MeekMom ((HUGE Ann Coulter Fan!!!) (Life-long Python Addict))
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To: SandyInSeattle
You know, another movie he played in years ago, when he was quite young, was "Julius Caesar" in 1960. I suddenly remembered that. He played young "Augustus Caesar", the future emperor at that time. He wore his hair blond, or wore a wig. Aug. Caesar was Caesar's nephew, and Caesar was said to be blond also. He was one in a group of men, including Mark Antony, who were hunting down Caesar's assasins in parts of the movie.

I do remember that Charleton Heston said something once, that he had worked with, and was friendly with many gifted and talented people who were gay. He played in that movie too. I'm wondering if R.C. was one of those 'gays' he was referring to?
119 posted on 05/31/2003 1:56:00 AM PDT by dsutah
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To: Hildy
I understand. Some of the actresses I think are pretty are munchers. I figure it doesn't matter since even if they were straight they wouldn't have anything to do with me.
120 posted on 05/31/2003 3:14:15 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: dogbyte12
Richard Chamberlin GAY??? No, seriously, I heard that news about 25 years ago. Did he think he was kidding anybody? I used to laugh at all the old ladys in the office I used to work in when the made for TV movie "The Thornbirds" was fist shown 20 years ago. When I told them their lover-boy was gay, they blew a gasket and wouldn't believe me. NOW I STAND VICTORIOUS, and VINDICATED!! I love to destroy "false idols".
121 posted on 05/31/2003 3:25:19 AM PDT by Lockbar
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To: Lockbar
Oh, oh!! Chamberlain, not Chamberlin. My mistake was hugh and series!!
122 posted on 05/31/2003 3:27:05 AM PDT by Lockbar
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To: MeekMom
Because God's Word speaks plain and simple in both the Old and New Testaments on this particular sin.

Have you read Luke 6:37-42? These verses speak plain and simple about the sin of judging others....

123 posted on 05/31/2003 6:27:58 AM PDT by freebilly (I think they've misunderestimated us....)
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To: dogbyte12
WOW, what an interesting piece of 'news'. (Sarcasm off)

I never cared for him as an actor.

124 posted on 05/31/2003 6:31:58 AM PDT by Dustbunny
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To: freebilly
Firstly, "FRiend", who am I judging?
Besides that;
John 7:24
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
125 posted on 05/31/2003 6:57:00 AM PDT by MeekMom ((HUGE Ann Coulter Fan!!!) (Life-long Python Addict))
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To: freebilly
So, what you are subtly telling us is that Shepard Smith is gay....

No, just that he looks a lot like Richard Chamberlain.

Especially with all that eyeliner on. D'OH!! ;^)

126 posted on 05/31/2003 7:01:12 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Let them eat cake.)
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To: Lockbar
Yeah, next thing you know, we'll be hearing such vicious rumors about Jim Nabors, Raymond Burr or even Robert Reed. My late father worked in Hollywood in the early-mid 1960s, and it was no secret back then about any of the guys mentioned in this thread (Rock, Chamberlain, Reed, etc.) - it just came as a bit of a surprise to middle America when it finally came out.
127 posted on 05/31/2003 7:13:04 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: EmmaPeel
I don't think Rock ever "outed himself". It was a well known fact in Hollywood that he was gay,

He didn't have to "out" himself. Anywhere he went the gay scene appeared with him. I remember him moving from one neighborhood because of the public gay activity at his place.

128 posted on 05/31/2003 7:21:40 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: dogbyte12
Why is this news? When I was kid watching Shogun on NBC I suspected that he was gay. It's been an open "secret" for decades.
129 posted on 05/31/2003 7:31:25 AM PDT by thathamiltonwoman
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To: dogbyte12
Richard Chamberlain sure knows how to keep a secret.

Richard Chamberlain is gay? Heavens to Betsy, who knew? What a revelation!

**snicker!**

130 posted on 05/31/2003 7:33:23 AM PDT by wimpycat ('Nemo me impune lacessit')
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To: thathamiltonwoman
I only posted this in culture and society, not breaking news. Mainly because it is a cultural news event, and he outed himself. I didn't put this in the front page, breaking news, whatever news column diliberately. Just thought it would bring discussion.

It did. The end.

131 posted on 05/31/2003 7:34:22 AM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: dogbyte12
Maybe I'm cynical but his "revelation" now ensures his immortality in Hollywood archives. Just like with Sal Mineo, Rock, Rosie, etc.
132 posted on 05/31/2003 7:38:43 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: dogbyte12
From the NY Daily News:

Chamberlain opens closet door: I'm gay

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

HONOLULU — More than four decades after he captured women's hearts on television's "Dr. Kildare," Richard Chamberlain has decided to reveal his identity as a gay man "because I'm not afraid anymore."

“I’m not a romantic leading man anymore so I don’t need to nurture that public image anymore,” the 69-year-old Chamberlain says in an interview to air Sunday on “Dateline NBC.”

“I can talk about it now because I’m not afraid anymore.”

The “Dateline” interview coincides with the publication of Chamberlain’s new memoir, “Shattered Love,” which will be released Tuesday by ReganBooks.

Chamberlain starred as television’s Dr. James Kildare from 1961-1966, and as Father Ralph, a love-torn priest, in the 1983 miniseries “The Thorn Birds.” He also starred in the 1974 movie “The Towering Inferno” and the 1980 miniseries “Shogun.”

“When I grew up, being gay, being a sissy or anything like that, was verboten,” said Chamberlain, who lives in Hawaii. “I disliked myself intensely and feared this part of myself intensely and had to hide it.”

Now, the actor says, everything is different.

He’s talking about his longtime partner, Martin; appearing in The Advocate magazine; and discussing his difficult childhood. “I love my life just the way it is. I’m proud of my relationship. I’m actually proud of myself,” Chamberlain said.

133 posted on 05/31/2003 7:42:44 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: freebilly
Post your pic, Hank, so's we can get a gander of someone who don't look gay...


134 posted on 05/31/2003 7:49:30 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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To: Spyder
Who? He was a character in Shogun? Which one?

The haole. Anginsan. The Pilot. The English sea captain.

I remember there was a big Poke-critter fight (which Anginsan won with Pikachu, of course) and then his opponent disembowled himself with a big Gin-su knife.

135 posted on 05/31/2003 8:27:44 AM PDT by BradyLS
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To: snickeroon
Oh, gosh, snickeroon, I remember the Evette Mimieux episodes, "Tyger, Tyger" was the title! Every time I saw Chamberlain in a show, I remembered that particular Dr. Kildare show. Remember how fake it looked when she was surfing-LOL! And crying my eyes out when she died. Oh, the good old shows.

Who the heck is next that needs to boost their career, a book, or just a burning desire to 'share' their lifestyle with us? My guess: Johnny Mathis

136 posted on 05/31/2003 8:28:34 AM PDT by uvular
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To: dogbyte12
Were you afraid people would find out?

Desperately afraid. I used to get chased by hot teenage girls. I got 12,000 fan letters a week...

Cry me a freakin' river...

137 posted on 05/31/2003 8:31:43 AM PDT by BradyLS
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Which Thunderbird character does Shep Smith play?
138 posted on 05/31/2003 8:41:35 AM PDT by BradyLS
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To: MeekMom
"Read the first few words of Genesis 1:1
...nuff said."

Those are simply words on paper. Again, please, an OBJECTIVE reason why your supernatural entity of choice should have primacy over any other supernatural entity. There are plenty of other scriptures out there, all claiming to be the only absolute truth. "Nuff said" doesn't count as objective evidence.
139 posted on 05/31/2003 10:04:18 AM PDT by jde1953
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To: MeekMom
All men sin, but are forgiven upon repentence.A gay mans sexual sins, will be just as forgiven as a gossipy christian virgins sins, and with the same qualifications. All either of them need do is ask for it. Noone other than God knows if this has taken place. Judge not, lest ye be judged.
140 posted on 05/31/2003 10:21:21 AM PDT by jeremiah (Sunshine scares all of them, for they all are cockaroaches)
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To: Technogeeb
What ever happened to the documentary that was made discussing the murder of Kurt by his bi---, err I mean Courtney.
141 posted on 05/31/2003 10:24:25 AM PDT by jeremiah (Sunshine scares all of them, for they all are cockaroaches)
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To: longtermmemmory
In the movie? Again, its been about 25 years since I read it. I do recall a passage describing his revulsion at the practices of sailors during that period.

Funny, I don't recall Melville bringing up the subject in either Moby Dick or White Jacket.

Okay, Clavell's from a different period and that novel was from a different period too.

142 posted on 05/31/2003 11:14:23 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: mountaineer
Raymond Burr? I guess I lead a sheltered life and don't look for the sexual orientation/practices in people to define them.
143 posted on 05/31/2003 11:17:15 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: A_perfect_lady
You must be kidding ...??
144 posted on 05/31/2003 11:22:16 AM PDT by The Final Harvest ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: jeremiah
What ever happened to the documentary that was made discussing the murder of Kurt by his bi---, err I mean Courtney.

I didn't know there was a documentary, but I heard that someone (a family member?) was going to publish a book on the subject.

145 posted on 05/31/2003 11:22:29 AM PDT by Technogeeb
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To: longtermmemmory
shepard smit

No idea. But I would suggest that a change of makeup and/or artist might be beneficial to his career.

I'll stop on FNC, but there's something not quite right about him, in my viewing preferences. I generally listen, more
than view, during that time period.

One of these years, I'll figure out what the "G Block" is.

146 posted on 05/31/2003 11:23:59 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: jde1953
Which of those other religions embraced homosexual marriage? Examples please.

You can pretend marry your dog too. Please don't tell me about cosumating a marriage, and that is not a necessary requirement of "marriage". Plenty of people are having intercourse these days (with humans) that have no intention of getting married.

Lest you think I am being ridiculous, some people celebrate birthdays for their pets. Some even leave their estates to their pets. Still doesn't make them a "married couple".

147 posted on 05/31/2003 1:03:09 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: Technogeeb
The documentary was called Kurt & Courtney. In it, Il Duce of the Mentors makes the claim (on camera) that he was approached by Courtney to kill Kurt. Other rumors indicated that he actually did it.

He was a vile man with a sick sense of humor but he could still be pleasant company. I talked to him briefly (after Kurt died but I knew nothing about this detail) the subjects we discussed were mundane ("hey go tell those girls over there your uncle Il Duce just hit the lottery"). He was a decent drinking "buddy". He also sang and made jokes about rape (a notable example was when he appeared on the Wally George show).

I heard that he was virtually homeless and when the band needed him for a gig they would drive around until they found him panhandling. He might have been up for taking the hit, I don't know him that well (saw his band twice, talked with him once).

He dead now, he got hit by a train (according to the film, he died during production, one week after they interviewed him).

The film is still interesting to watch to see Courtney Love give death threats to a reporter and then receive a free speech award from the ACLU.

148 posted on 05/31/2003 1:10:50 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: stylin19a
I hear that Kenneth Anger made a hint at this in one of his versions of Hollywood Babylon.
149 posted on 05/31/2003 1:13:18 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace; buccaneer81
Re: Shepard Smith

We don't get Fox News in San Francisco. I have basic cable -- I get CNN, MSNBC, etc -- but Fox News (as far as I know) isn't on here. If I'm wrong, somebody let me know.

150 posted on 05/31/2003 2:55:53 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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