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Special Visa's Use for Tech Workers Is Challenged
the new york times ^ | 05.30.03 | KATIE HAFNER and DANIEL PREYSMAN

Posted on 05/30/2003 8:52:01 PM PDT by liberalnot

Special Visa's Use for Tech Workers Is Challenged

Richard L. Harbus for The New York Times A flier from the Organization for the Rights of American Workers, which wants to restrict visas that allow companies to transfer workers to the United States.

By KATIE HAFNER and DANIEL PREYSMAN

AN FRANCISCO, May 29 — With the economy in a slump, a growing number of American technology workers say their jobs are going not only to lower-cost foreign workers abroad, but also increasingly to workers who enter the United States under a little-known visa category known as L-1.

In the nearly three years since the technology bubble burst, the use of L-1 visas to bring in workers — with a large percentage from India — has become a popular strategy among firms seeking to cut labor costs. The number of these temporary visas granted rose nearly 40 percent to 57,700 in 2002 from 41,739 in 1999.

The visas are intended to allow companies to transfer employees from a foreign branch or subsidiary to company offices in the United States. But they are now routinely used by companies based in India and elsewhere to bring their workers into the United States and then contract them out to American companies — in many instances to be replacements for American workers. The number of Americans who have been replaced by foreign contract workers is unknown. American companies that use contract workers have said that the decision to do so is based on factors like skills, and not on cost alone.

Some immigration experts are questioning the legality of this use of the visa. Officials at the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services, or B.C.I.S., a division of the Department of Homeland Security that oversees the granting of L-1 and other work visas, say the bureau is conducting an assessment of the L-1 visa to determine whether there is misuse.

"If this is a company offering the services of their employee to go work for another company, it sounds dubious," said Bill Strassberger, a spokesman for B.C.I.S.

"To bring someone in ostensibly as an intracompany transfer and then put him to work for somebody else and then to say that we're paying him still, that just sounds like someone's trying to really stretch the envelope on that visa category," Mr. Strassberger said.

The legal questions, however, remain murky. Steve Yale-Loehr, who teaches immigration law at Cornell, said that strictly speaking, what these companies are doing is legal, though perhaps not what Congress intended. However, Mr. Yale-Loehr added, "If Congress is upset about this, then Congress will act on it."

In response to the controversy, Rep. John L. Mica, a Republican from Florida, introduced a bill this month to prevent companies from hiring foreigners with L-1 visas.

"When you have people using this to bring in lower-cost labor to displace Americans, it's something we need to address," Mr. Mica said in a telephone interview.

During the boom years, the technology industries successfully lobbied Congress to expand the number of foreign software engineers who could be permitted to fill programming needs in the United States. In 2000, Congress increased the annual cap on more restrictive temporary visas — known as H-1B visas — for highly skilled foreign workers to 195,000 from 115,000. That quota will drop automatically to 65,000 on Oct. 1 unless Congress approves an extension, a move that is considered unlikely.

In the last two years, the trend in the use of H-1B visas has declined sharply. Many experts say the use of L-1 visas will grow.

Unlike the H-1B visa, the L-1 does not require employers to pay workers prevailing wages. In addition, there is no cap on the number of L-1 visas.

This has ignited an outcry among technology workers who have lost jobs and say that foreign contract workers are paid substantially less than prevailing wages in the industry.

Over the last three years, William O'Neill has seen his small computer consulting firm in East Granby, Conn., dwindle from six contract workers to none. The work itself has not disappeared, said Mr. O'Neill, but his clients, most of them large insurance companies in Connecticut and western Massachusetts, are turning to foreign companies, some with workers who are in the United States on temporary visas. Satyam Computer Services, a consulting firm based in India, for example, now has a contract with the Cigna Corporation that has around 100 Satyam employees working on computer applications management in Cigna offices.

And as others have claimed, Mr. O'Neill said that in many cases, existing technology employees are asked to train their replacements. The L-1 visa requires that the foreign workers possess specialized knowledge of the work to be done.

Mr. O'Neill said that the people he knows who are currently training their replacements will not talk about their situation for fear of losing what is left of their jobs. "They're scared to death they're going to lose their jobs instantly versus six or eight or nine months down the road," he said.

Once the replacement workers are trained, Mr. O'Neill said, the foreign workers are often sent back to India to do programming and computer work there for the American companies.

Wipro, InfoSys and Tata Consultancy Services, all of them based in India, are other companies that are using L-1 visas to get workers into the United States.

Girish Surendran, a human resources manager who oversees immigration issues at Tata, said his company "is committed in letter and spirit to all the requirements and regulations of all visa categories." He added: "If workers are replaced, it's not that T.C.S. comes in and employees get let go." Mr. Surendran said he could not comment on a company's reason for laying workers off.

Wipro plans to lobby against Mr. Mica's bill. If it becomes law, said Sridhar Ramasubbu, investor relations manager at Wipro, the company will simply turn back to H1-B visas. "We will not be affected financially because our compensation is the same whether somebody comes in under an H-1 or an L-1," Mr. Ramasubbu said.

But trade groups representing American workers say the foreign workers are paid considerably less. "I have friends that were told in the last three months that they must take a $30,000 pay cut to keep their job," said John Bauman, president of the Organization for the Rights of American Workers, a nonprofit group based in Meriden, Conn.

Gary Burns, the legislative director for Mr. Mica, said there were about 325,000 L-1 visa holders in the United States. Those who stay in this country can remain for up to five or seven years, depending on the category of L-1 they hold.

Some experts say that the use of L-1 visas for contract workers is not widespread and that fears of losing jobs to foreign workers are exaggerated.

"Even if this brouhaha is about a real problem, I think when you look at the number of workers involved, it is a totally insignificant drop in a massive labor market," said Daryl Buffenstein, a immigration lawyer in Atlanta who has corporate clients and is general counsel for the American Immigration Lawyers Association.

Mr. Buffenstein said that those who oppose the L-1 visa do not understand how important it is for American industry. "It will hurt employment in the United States if we impede the ability of legitimate users to transfer managers and specialists between different affiliates of international organizations," said Mr. Buffenstein, a lawyer who advised legislators on the law governing L-1 visas.

Mr. Buffenstein said he was also worried that public overreaction would result in measures like the Mica bill, which he contended would go too far in restricting international companies from using L-1 visa holders to do on-site client work.

Controversy over the visa, which has been in existence for 33 years, is not entirely new. Three years ago, the General Accounting Office reported that the the Immigration and Naturalization Services, the precursor to B.C.I.S., had found a high incidence of fraudulent use of L-1 visas and had called abuse of the visas "the new wave in alien smuggling."

But protest over the use of temporary foreign workers has become more vocal in a rocky economy. One 57-year-old computer consultant in Avon, Conn., who has been out of work for five months said, "This isn't just an I.T. issue," referring to the information technology industry.

"It's a big issue with multiple professions, and has a serious effect on the economy," said the consultant, who asked that his name not be used for fear of jeopardizing his chances to find work. "A lot of this is about the economy and the L-1 issue is just exacerbating the problem."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; foreignworkers; l1

1 posted on 05/30/2003 8:52:02 PM PDT by liberalnot
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To: liberalnot
Awaiting all the asinine remarks from the Capitalism worshipers... (Note the capital C on capitalism).

Conservatives have to take a step back and realize that pure Caplitalism isn't exactly a Christian value or belief. (Neither is Socialism or Communism.)



2 posted on 05/30/2003 8:55:45 PM PDT by 1stFreedom
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To: 1stFreedom
i'm for capitalism, but it obviously has to be managed.

for example, the enron, adelphia, qwest, world com, citibank, etc. messes would not have occurred if the s.e.c. was doing its job.
3 posted on 05/30/2003 8:58:55 PM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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To: Willie Green
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4 posted on 05/30/2003 8:59:52 PM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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To: liberalnot
Conservative Christians often mistake Conservatism for Christianity.

They also wonder why the leftist Churches are always fighing against conservative efforts. What they don't get is that the leftists have a clue about Christian values. The problem with the leftists is they want the Govt to do do the job of the Church. The problem with the right is they want the Government to stop all charity.

Truth is, the Churches got lazy and want the govt to do their job. Conservatives need to devise a plan to PHASE out govt charity and replace it with Religious charity. (Faith base programs might be the answer).

The govt has a role in social programs, but the Church needs to be the PRIMARY institution of charity and wealth redistribution.

5 posted on 05/30/2003 9:04:16 PM PDT by 1stFreedom
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To: liberalnot
Thanks for the post. I may end up being a one issue voter over this matter.
6 posted on 05/30/2003 9:05:08 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: liberalnot
Each economic system has weaknesses.

Capitalism is a poor system, but it's 5x better than the others.

Government social programs are here not because commies want to take over the country, but because of the inherent weakness of Capitalism and the lazyness of the Churches. They are a response to the weaknesses.

The govt does have a role in protecting it's workers. It's not communistic or socialistic to say that there shouldn't be H1b or L1 workers. (Ok, now come the asinine Pure Capitalism is GOD remarks.)
7 posted on 05/30/2003 9:07:15 PM PDT by 1stFreedom
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To: 1stFreedom
" Three years ago, the General Accounting Office reported that the the Immigration and Naturalization Services, the precursor to B.C.I.S., had found a high incidence of fraudulent use of L-1 visas and had called abuse of the visas 'the new wave in alien smuggling.'"

8 posted on 05/30/2003 9:07:45 PM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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To: 1stFreedom
i think there has to be regulation.

there is no "free trade", per se--that's an ideal.

there are winners and losers.
9 posted on 05/30/2003 9:09:24 PM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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To: EverOnward
As a tech worker, I am going to vote one issue next election.

I'm a small biz owner (consulting) and if the pubbies don't want my vote, then they won't fix the L1 and H1 problems.

This WILL sink Bush. Doesn't seem like it now, but if tech is still bad next year watch out.

10 posted on 05/30/2003 9:10:56 PM PDT by 1stFreedom
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To: 1stFreedom
http://www.nomoreh1b.com/default.aspx

The Visa Count

 Year 

  H-1B Visa

L1 Visa 

1985

  65,349

   47,322

1990

  63,180

  100,446

1995     112,124

  117,574

1996     140,457

  144,458

1998     203,255

  240,947

1999     234,443

  302,326

2000     294,658

  355,605

The L-1 visa does not require the worker to pay taxes
H-1b:  DOL/INS  fails to update the IRS that a worker is here.  We've interviewed dozens where payroll taxes were NOT withheld.  Ask your favorite foreign tech worker if he has a pay stub!


11 posted on 05/30/2003 9:14:53 PM PDT by Drango (There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those that understand binaries, and those that don't.)
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To: liberalnot
bump
12 posted on 05/31/2003 4:26:47 AM PDT by RippleFire
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To: 1stFreedom
You better believe it.

And what happens if the real estate bubble bursts a year from now ? Bush could lose to an economically nationalist pro-war Democrat.

And let us be honest about something. I don't like what I am hearing from Iraq. I supported the war, but I don't think things are going well.
13 posted on 05/31/2003 4:37:33 AM PDT by Tokhtamish
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