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FL Teacher Sues Orange County District over "Kindergartner from Hell"
WND.com ^ | 06-01-03 | WND.com

Posted on 06/01/2003 5:24:54 AM PDT by Theodore R.

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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
You probably have more parent horror stories than student horror stories, now that I think about it. ; )

The little darlings have to learn it somewhere. ;-)

141 posted on 06/01/2003 8:05:16 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: honeygrl
Your post reminded me of something I stumbled across. Don't know if will work for you or not but raising my voice at my grandson doesn't help but whispering does. I don't know if he can't scream and listen at the same time but it works.
142 posted on 06/01/2003 8:07:52 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: honeygrl
My mom did give me a good idea on how to punish bad behavior in public where no one would notice what you are doing. Rather than spanking, pinch them LOL. Just don't leave a bruise.

ROFL!! My mother tried that with my brother, right under the arm. He started to scream bloody murder, "You're PINCHING me!" Poor woman was beside herself.

Do you and your son have a fairly consistant routine for the day? If you're kind of relaxed and easy going it might help to have more of a schedule. It sometimes helps when they know what to expect. My son behaved terribly when he was caught off guard by an unexpected errand, delayed nap or meal. And it would unsettle him for the rest of the day.

143 posted on 06/01/2003 8:14:59 PM PDT by Dianna (space for rent)
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To: Amelia
My favorite is the ADHD kid whose mother thought it was okay if he burst into song in the middle of my lecture - "He can listen and sing at the same time."

"And he can do both outside," the teacher responded. ;-)

144 posted on 06/01/2003 8:25:36 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds
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To: Scenic Sounds; Amelia
Hmmmmmm. How did the teacher respond?
145 posted on 06/01/2003 8:26:52 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Save your breath. You'll need it to blow up your date.)
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To: Amelia; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Yes, Amelia, how did you respond?
146 posted on 06/01/2003 8:32:14 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; Scenic Sounds
How did the teacher respond?

The teacher pointed out that, even if it didn't affect the singing student, it did distract the other students, and it wasn't going to continue. :-D

147 posted on 06/01/2003 8:35:35 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: Amelia
And that worked?
148 posted on 06/01/2003 8:42:43 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds
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To: Scenic Sounds
And that worked?

What worked better was when I pointed out that, if the student's test grades were any indication, he couldn't sing and pay attention at the same time.

I also started calling Dad at work every time the student disrupted class. ;-)

149 posted on 06/01/2003 8:47:22 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: Amelia
I also started calling Dad at work every time the student disrupted class. ;-)

Very creative way to encourage parent participation. LOL

Good for you!

150 posted on 06/01/2003 8:50:25 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds
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To: honeygrl
But, I can't give you any better solution for a tantrum since i'm still working on it myself.

I think ignoring a tantrum is best because like you said, you really can't fight them then and why let your own temper get out of control? Sometimes just leaving the room and let them regain control works as well as anything and if they get no reward ---positive or negative, they'll drop having tantrums as a way to get their own way.

152 posted on 06/01/2003 10:11:35 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: honeygrl
But that much violence and intentionally mean behavior from a 5yr old is a bad bad sign of real problems.

Of course we don't know all the facts ---just the teacher's description of his behavior ---he used terms like "kiss my butt" and "you ugly faggot" which he had to learn from somewhere ---maybe home. My kids learned plenty of bad words in two languages by that age --and they'll try most of the words at least once. I think in this case the teacher wanted a long medical leave ---it would be interesting to know how other adults view this child before deciding --- the kid probably knew he had control and was just taking advantage --- he doesn't sound like the sweetest 5 year old you'd care to meet but pushing and shoving and punching at that age isn't that unusual. A coworker's son recently got in trouble ---in the 6th grade for giving a girl a "wedgie" which the teachers called sexual abuse --- but they have a co-ed playground instead of doing the smart thing and segregating the kids ---because in the past that was considered the sensible thing because boys play rough.

153 posted on 06/01/2003 10:18:18 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
I can't imagine where he would get the term "you ugly faggot" other than from home or friends because I've certainly never heard that even used on TV.
154 posted on 06/01/2003 10:56:54 PM PDT by honeygrl
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To: SoftballMominVA
Thanks for info--check your mail box.
155 posted on 06/05/2003 8:16:07 AM PDT by hexpoppy
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