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Ambivalence in the Besieged Town of `Run, Rudolph, Run'
NYTimes ^ | 6/1/03 | JEFFREY GETTLEMAN

Posted on 06/01/2003 6:03:53 AM PDT by RJCogburn

Crystal Davis doesn't quite side with Eric Rudolph, but she sympathizes with him.

"He's a Christian and I'm a Christian and he dedicated his life to fighting abortion," said Mrs. Davis, 25, mother of four. "Those are our values. And I don't see what he did as a terrorist act."

Her feelings were echoed, person after person, in this sawmill and cow-pasture hamlet today, where the Appalachian foothills rise above town in every direction. Mr. Rudolph, who is accused of the 1996 Olympic bombing and attacks on abortion clinics, was arrested in Murphy this morning after a five-year manhunt. Federal authorities said that for years he had been living off the land around here, a conservative, woodsy corner of the rural South.

Some people in Murphy expressed a certain amount of respect for the wily survivalist. Others vented a disdain for the federal agents who promised a quick capture.

"We thought it was kind of funny when the feds rolled in here all arrogant," said William Hoyt, an unemployed crafter of birdhouses. "They kept saying they didn't need our help. It put a lot of people off. Nobody around here condones murder, but I think a lot of people weren't sure which side to be on."

As the search intensified over the years, locals cashed in by printing up T-shirts that said "Run, Rudolph, Run," and "Eric Rudolph — Hide and Seek Champion of the World." Many people here had an uneasy relationship with F.B.I. agents, who often said they suspected the local population was providing the fugitive with food and shelter.

"If he came to my door, I'd give him food," Mrs. Davis said. "That's just how we are with strangers."

Today, scenic Murphy, population 1,500, felt as if it were the center of the world. Dozens of satellite television trucks clogged the narrow roads, and with all the reporters and law enforcement officials, it almost looked like Osama bin Laden had been hiding in this land of red-roofed barns and boiled peanuts.

"Who else wants to talk to me? Who else needs an interview?" Mrs. Davis asked, trolling through the throngs of reporters.

In the end, some Murphy residents almost seemed let down. Like the Washington sniper suspects found sleeping alongside the road last fall or the man believed to be the Louisiana serial killer arrested in a tire shop last week, the hunt for the elusive Mr. Rudolph had with a lackluster finish. After five years of searching caves, using heat-seeking military equipment and hundreds of agents, Mr. Rudolph, credited with being able to live off the land, was found picking through the garbage behind a Sav-A-Lot grocery story.

"I guess he lost focus," said Bill Gaither, an assistant high school principal here. "I agree with his views. But not his ways. I'm glad they finally got him."


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"He's a Christian and I'm a Christian and he dedicated his life to fighting abortion," said Mrs. Davis, 25, mother of four. "Those are our values. And I don't see what he did as a terrorist act."

I would say she is an idiot...but that's just me.

1 posted on 06/01/2003 6:03:53 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: RJCogburn
"I guess he lost focus," said Bill Gaither, an assistant high school principal here. "I agree with his views. But not his ways. I'm glad they finally got him."

A much more rational statement, I think.

2 posted on 06/01/2003 6:13:29 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: RJCogburn
This woman is a twit, ignorant and ought to be ashamed, as a "good Christian" to offer any inkling of support for this killer.
3 posted on 06/01/2003 6:23:03 AM PDT by habs4ever
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To: RJCogburn
According to Rudolph's former sister-in-law, Deborah Rudolph, in CNN's "The Hunt for Eric Rudolph," Eric Rudolph's anti-abortion zealotry only extended to the abortion of white babies, not to all babies.
4 posted on 06/01/2003 6:32:42 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Catspaw
The article is from the New York Times and you comment is from CNN. Both sources are less than completely honest.
5 posted on 06/01/2003 6:40:48 AM PDT by FLAUSA
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To: Catspaw
Rudolph is as as "pro-life" as Heinrich Heydrich ever was.These "good people" of Murphy ,NC who gave tacit approval to him, are worthy of every caricature and insult that comes their way.
6 posted on 06/01/2003 6:41:38 AM PDT by habs4ever
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To: RJCogburn
These days, whenever a NYT reporter starts describing "sawmill and cow-pasture hamlets" in his story, I have to wonder if he actually visited the place.
7 posted on 06/01/2003 6:42:26 AM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: FLAUSA
CNN showed Deborah Rudolph saying that Eric Rudolph was only concerned about the abortion of white babies. Are you saying she's a liar?
8 posted on 06/01/2003 6:43:16 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: habs4ever
Rudolph is as as "pro-life" as Heinrich Heydrich ever was.These "good people" of Murphy ,NC who gave tacit approval to him, are worthy of every caricature and insult that comes their way.

I'm not going to blame an entire town for giving tacit approval to Rudolph. It may well be a small minority of the townsfolk. However, if anyone helped him and harbored him, God help them, because they're going to have the book thrown at them.

9 posted on 06/01/2003 6:45:17 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: RJCogburn
this artical is very condensending of rual south, and I would say rual America.
10 posted on 06/01/2003 6:50:06 AM PDT by Gone_Postal
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To: Catspaw
What I said was "The article is from the New York Times and you comment is from CNN. Both sources are less than completely honest."
11 posted on 06/01/2003 6:50:35 AM PDT by FLAUSA
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To: martin_fierro
They love to get the controversial statement. The majority of the town is relieved. Pro life doesn't mean one condones bombings and the community has the ability to get the unwanted feds and media out of their hair.Of course they are back for now!
12 posted on 06/01/2003 6:54:11 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: FLAUSA
I'd suggest you watch CNN's "The Hunt for Eric Rudolph." Deborah Rudolph not quoted by CNN saying this, but said it to the camera. A story this morning on CNN used the clip of Deborah Rudolph from that documentary. The transcript from that story is not up on CNN's website. When it is, I'll post it for you.
13 posted on 06/01/2003 6:59:59 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: MEG33
I note that they only address the abortion clinic bombings and not the bombing of the gay bar and certainly not the Olympic Park bombing. Rudolph has been indicted for all four bombings, not just the bombings of the abortion clinics.

I wonder how they address the murders of the police officer in Birmingham and the woman at the Olympic Park bombing.

14 posted on 06/01/2003 7:03:25 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Catspaw
Denial.I realize he has been charged and not convicted.I think the last bombing where the policeman was killed is their best case.That's when they got his license #.
15 posted on 06/01/2003 7:09:35 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: MEG33
I'm wondering where they're going to try him first, and I do think the first jurisdiction may well be Birmingham because they do have a witness, at least one who got his license number. It'd be a single incident trial, rather than the three incidents in Georgia, and less complicated. He's also not been charged with state murder charges in Georgia and Alabama, but I'm sure they're coming. There isn't any statute of limitations for murder, so the states have time.

In any event, for the next few years, Rudolph is going to be spending his days in court, or in jail waiting for his next court appearance.

16 posted on 06/01/2003 7:14:20 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Catspaw
For anyone who hasn't read "The Last American Hero," Tom Wolfe's essay from the early 1960s about NASCAR legend Junior Johnson, I would strongly recommend it. Johnson hails from these same hills of western North Carolina, and Wolfe did an outstanding job of tracing NASCAR's roots back to the rural areas of the south where running moonshine was a long-standing tradition.

It wasn't too long after the American Revolution before the people who lived in the mountainous western areas of every state on the eastern seaboard began to see the city-dwellers on the coast who dominated the legislatures as no different than the British government that had just been overthrown. There has been an inherent distrust of outsiders in almost every one of these little towns that has carried on to this day.

17 posted on 06/01/2003 7:22:15 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: RJCogburn
Everyone seems to have a view on what this guy did.

I seemed to have missed the part where he was found guilty in a court of law.

18 posted on 06/01/2003 7:28:57 AM PDT by highpockets
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To: Alberta's Child
To add to Alberta's Child's posting above, you might also rent the movie "The Last American Hero" -- "Hard Driver" is the _same_ movie, retitled. It starred Jeff Bridges as the young Junior "Jackson", a fictionalized account of the early days of stock car hero Junior Johnson. Directed by Lamont Johnston with what was perhaps Jim Croce's finest tune (although he didn't write it), "I've Got A Name". A beautifully-crafted film from the early 70's that doesn't mock the rural South of the time.

Cheers!
- John

19 posted on 06/01/2003 7:33:02 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Alberta's Child
The most important fact about the capture of Eric Rudolph is that it was accoplished by a small town deputy in North Carolina. This indicates that despite all the high tech gear deployed by the FBI it was possible for him to be on the run for years before being captured. This was once the biggest manhunt for an identified suspect ever. Yet a small town deputy apprehended him at a dumpster.

this makes a very clear statement about the competence of the FBI and the state of the art in hunting down an individual who probably had some community support.

Now, it is clear that sme in the hills of Western North Carolina would provide aid and assistance to anyone who looked hungry. this is not necessarily a bad thing and when this happens in the Ghettos of our nations urban areas people who do that are considered to be pillars of the community. Now as to what Eric Rudolph's agenda or ideas were I really can not say as I have not heard or seen reports on them. I am merely stating that his ability to escape and evade is awe inspiring.

20 posted on 06/01/2003 7:33:12 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Catspaw
Let me say it again. CNN is not a reliable news source. If it were then Richard Jewell(?) would be guilty of the Alanta bombing and therefor Rudolph would not be a suspect.

As for watching "The Hunt for Eric Rudolph" on CNN, I can guess the story line. It is probably a hit piece on Southern white Christians equating their views with those of Rudolph.

As for Rudolph, I'll reserve judgement until he is tried by a jury of his peers, not CNN.

21 posted on 06/01/2003 7:36:41 AM PDT by FLAUSA
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To: habs4ever
Don't get too involved in this on FR. There are actually people on this forum who believe that when (not if) abortion becomes illegal, everyone who even HAD an abortion should and will be jailed or executed. I'm not making this up.
22 posted on 06/01/2003 7:36:45 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy
I'm not making this up.

You gotta be.

23 posted on 06/01/2003 7:38:40 AM PDT by RJCogburn (Yes, I will call it bold talk for a......)
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To: FLAUSA
As for watching "The Hunt for Eric Rudolph" on CNN, I can guess the story line. It is probably a hit piece on Southern white Christians equating their views with those of Rudolph.

Actually it isn't. However, your mind is already closed.

24 posted on 06/01/2003 7:46:41 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: RJCogburn
I wonder how hard the Times had to look to find that chick? How predictably diligent of them.
25 posted on 06/01/2003 7:49:44 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
Not very hard:

"Who else wants to talk to me? Who else needs an interview?" Mrs. Davis asked, trolling through the throngs of reporters.

26 posted on 06/01/2003 7:50:50 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: FLAUSA
I agree. Prior to 9/11, white men and specifically southern white men, were the gov'ts "bogey men", thanks to Klinton and the Buthcer of Waco, Reno. Now that events more than suggest our focus should have been placed on other threats, look for the Klintoon apologizers to make hay on the Rupolph arrest.
27 posted on 06/01/2003 7:51:43 AM PDT by bribriagain
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To: harpseal
I am merely stating that his ability to escape and evade is awe inspiring.

From what I understand, Rudolph lived his entire life as if he knew he would someday be a fugitive from the law. No bank accounts, no credit cards, very few photos, always worked for cash, etc.

28 posted on 06/01/2003 7:53:08 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: RJCogburn
"I would say she is an idiot...but that's just me"...your resopnse to Mrs. Davis statement

"Well, it may be bold talk for a one eyed fat man, but I would be happy to see Bill Clinton hanged at Fort Smith at Judge Parker's convenience"......from YOUR profile ..... advocating violent death (grin)

......What is worse...killing babies or killing abortion doctors? Killing babies is "legal" only because 5 old,worthless supreme court "justices" used some twisted constitutional logic to declare that there is a "right" for mommies to hire somebody to kill their babies hidden somewhere in our Constitution. It was NEVER a law passed by even the most liberal legslative body any where in the United States. Terror begets terror...The babies cannot defend themselves and have no choice except to submit to the killer's suction machine, or knife, or caustic solution,....or to get part way born only to have their brains sucked out! The abortion doctors, on the other hand, have all kinds of choices...they can do their murder hidden, they can wear flak jackets, they can ride in armoured cars, they can even choose to QUIT their murder.

No doubt Rudolph is a killer....and no doubt will be killed himself by lethel injection....but IMHO, of the two killers, the abortionists or Rudolph, the abortionists are the most despicable.

29 posted on 06/01/2003 7:55:13 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty
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To: mewzilla
I wonder how hard the Times had to look to find that chick?

The answer to your question is right there in the article:

"Who else wants to talk to me? Who else needs an interview?" Mrs. Davis asked, trolling through the throngs of reporters.

30 posted on 06/01/2003 7:56:51 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin; Catspaw
I know. I was being sarcastic :)
31 posted on 06/01/2003 7:59:38 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Catspaw
"your mind is already closed."

You are right. My mind is closed to the propaganda of CNN.

32 posted on 06/01/2003 8:02:49 AM PDT by FLAUSA
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To: B.O. Plenty
Amen brother. Anyone who works for an abortion clinic is morally guilty of murder. The Supreme Court has quietly been eroding the rule of law, especially that of the Constitution, for over 100 years. Eric Rudolf took the law into his own hands. Let's not forget that he was merely following the example of the federal courts.
33 posted on 06/01/2003 8:08:16 AM PDT by rcofdayton
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To: RJCogburn
Does she know about his brand of Christianity? I wouldn't qualify it as such... but then again I disagree with most organized Christian churches...
34 posted on 06/01/2003 8:10:32 AM PDT by sabe@q.com
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To: Catspaw
"Eric Rudolph's anti-abortion zealotry only extended to the abortion of white babies, not to all babies."

You've got to be kidding? The guy is totally messed up...

35 posted on 06/01/2003 8:11:37 AM PDT by sabe@q.com
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To: FLAUSA
It was a video and audio clip of his sister in law... the source is not important...
36 posted on 06/01/2003 8:16:33 AM PDT by sabe@q.com
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To: B.O. Plenty
No doubt Rudolph is a killer....and no doubt will be killed himself by lethel injection....but IMHO, of the two killers, the abortionists or Rudolph, the abortionists are the most despicable.

Rudolph isn't accused of killing any abortionists. He is accused of killing Alice Hawthorne, who died in the Olympic Park bombing, and was only there to attend a free concert with her 14-year-old daughter. To the best of my knowledge, Alice Hawthorne has no connection to any abortion clinic. Rudolph is also accused of killing Birmingham Police Officer Robert Sanderson, who was killed at the Birmingham abortion clinic as he provided security. Did these people deserve to die, and if so, why?

37 posted on 06/01/2003 8:18:41 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Catspaw
Can Rudolph be charged in the Hawthorne death, as she died from a heart attack as she was running to cover the bombing incident, was she not? How can this be proved in law?
38 posted on 06/01/2003 8:26:22 AM PDT by habs4ever
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To: habs4ever
You're confusing Alice Hawthorne with the Turkish cameraman, Melih Uzunyol. Hawthorne died of injuries suffered by the bomb. Uzunyol died of a heart attack while he ran to film the scene of the bombing.
39 posted on 06/01/2003 8:29:12 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: RJCogburn
"He's a Christian and I'm a Christian and he dedicated his life to fighting abortion," said Mrs. Davis, 25, mother of four. "Those are our values. And I don't see what he did as a terrorist act."

Hmmm...this sounds so familiar. Like every friggin' terrorist sympathizer in the middle east!
40 posted on 06/01/2003 8:31:17 AM PDT by manic4organic (An organic conservative)
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To: habs4ever
habs4ever, here's part of a press release about the indictions: The first bombing incident occurred at Centennial Olympic Park, where thousands of visitors had gathered on the ninth day of the 1996 Summer Olympics. The bomb, placed near the main stage in the park, injured more than 100 people, many of them permanently, and killed Alice Hawthorne, a mother who had traveled to Atlanta with her daughter to see the Olympics. A Turkish cameraman, Melih Uzunyol, died of a heart attack responding to the blast.


http://www.atf.treas.gov/wanted/ericjoin.htm
41 posted on 06/01/2003 8:33:44 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: mewzilla; Howlin
It sounds like Mrs. Davis is Murphy NC's media gadfly. What surprised me is that her trolling the media was actually reported.
42 posted on 06/01/2003 8:35:07 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: marajade
"It was a video and audio clip of his sister in law... the source is not important..."

The source is always important. Video tapes are edited and comments can be taken out of context.

We all have a tendancy to believe reports that we agree with, regardless of the source of those reports. I'm not saying that I disagree with the premise that Rudolph is the bomber or that he is a racist, what I am saying is that anything broadcast by CNN should be questioned because of the past behavior of CNN.

43 posted on 06/01/2003 8:47:36 AM PDT by FLAUSA
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To: habs4ever
Whatever happened to "a man is innocent unless proven
guilty"? Remember the poor little chubby guy at the scene
of the Olympic bombing who was tried and convicted by the
media frenzy and law enforcement? He finally sued and
collected a huge settlement for libel and slander when he
was proven to be innocent.
44 posted on 06/01/2003 8:50:08 AM PDT by Twinkie
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To: RJCogburn
It ought to be kept in mind that accusing people of helping a fugitive is accusing them of committing a crime. It's one thing to believe that Rudolph is likely a terrorist, it's quite another to smear a whole town.

I thought the comment of the Murphy townsman, who recounted the feds' dismissive treatment of the locals (who could have been useful in hunting down the fugitive) when they first descended on the town.

The whole spin on Murphy, and the entire rural mountainous south, plays into some very convenient leftist prejudices.

45 posted on 06/01/2003 8:56:08 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: FLAUSA
"Video tapes are edited and comments can be taken out of context."

It was a direct quote... you're being ridiculous...
46 posted on 06/01/2003 8:56:18 AM PDT by sabe@q.com
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To: Twinkie
Something tells me that Rudolph ain't gonna be suing...
47 posted on 06/01/2003 8:58:10 AM PDT by sabe@q.com
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To: Twinkie
You're talking about Jewell, and he is in the news again. I don't know if he ever actually collected anything, but he and his lawyer are very interested in this arrest and the evidence that will speak to their cause of action. If you recall, practically fifteen minutes after they gave up on Jewell, they suddenly discovered that Rudolph was the perp.
48 posted on 06/01/2003 8:58:23 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
Those who helped him had better hope he keeps his mouth shut... or they're gonna be charged themselves... for conspiracy...

I seen it reported too that he is talking... If I were them.... I'd be extremely worried...
49 posted on 06/01/2003 8:59:50 AM PDT by sabe@q.com
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To: Twinkie
Yeah, sure...he's been on the lam for years because he really wants to be "left alone"...uh huh.
50 posted on 06/01/2003 9:03:49 AM PDT by habs4ever
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