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KEY VOTE ON "PARTIAL BIRTH" ABORTIONS
MSNBC Online | June 4, 2003 | Associated Press

Posted on 06/04/2003 6:40:34 AM PDT by grania

Key vote on ‘partial-birth’ abortions

House expected to approve ban, Bush is ready to sign on

ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON, June 4 — Culminating an eight-year struggle, congressional opponents of an abortion procedure they call partial birth abortion are on the verge of passing a law barring doctors from using it. The House on Wednesday is expected to approve the ban by a comfortable margin. After minor differences with a Senate-passed bill are worked out, the legislation would go to President Bush, who is ready to sign it into law.

Congress twice passed partial birth bans, but then President Clinton, citing the need for a health exception, vetoed both measures.

ABORTION RIGHTS groups say they would immediately go to court to challenge the law, which would be the first to prohibit a certain abortion procedure since the 1973 Supreme Court decision establishing the right to choose an abortion. The Supreme Court in 2000, by a 5-4 vote, struck down a similar Nebraska state law as unconstitutional, but a court ruling this time could coincide with the possible resignation of a judge and the president’s nomination of a new, more conservative member. “President Bush is taking the first step in banning all abortion procedures and ultimately banning abortion,” said Kate Michelman, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America. “This is really serious.”

MOMENTUM SINCE 1995 Republicans have been trying since they captured control of the House in 1995 to prohibit doctors from committing an “overt act” to kill a partially delivered fetus. Partial birth is described as a case in which the entire fetal head is outside the body of the mother or, in the event of a breech delivery, if “any part of the fetal trunk past the navel is outside the body of the mother.” Bush, after Senate passage, called it an “abhorrent procedure that offends human dignity.” Advertisement

There’s considerable disagreement on the scope of the measure. Anti-abortion groups say it is used commonly in the last trimester on healthy babies of healthy mothers. Opponents of the bill say the procedure known as dilation and extraction is performed only rarely, and that the vague definition in the legislation could make other procedures used in the second trimester legally questionable. The House bill, sponsored by Rep. Steve Chabot, R-Ohio, passed in nearly identical form by the Senate last March, 64-33. In what was probably a fleeting victory of the abortion rights side, the Senate voted, 52-46, in support of a nonbinding amendment endorsing the Supreme Court’s landmark 1973 Roe v. Wade decision guaranteeing abortion rights. The amendment is likely to get removed in a House-Senate conference. Opponents of the partial birth bill, led by Reps. Steny Hoyer, D-Md., and James Greenwood, R-Pa., are offering an alternative that would make it illegal to perform any abortion procedure after the fetus has become viable, unless the doctor determines that it is necessary to preserve a woman’s life or protect her from serious adverse health consequences. The Senate defeated a similar alternative, with opponents arguing that the health exception offered too large a loophole for doctors to perform abortions. The partial birth bill, which makes it a crime for a doctor to perform the procedure, includes an exemption for cases in which the life of the mother is jeopardized, but not for general health reasons.

JUSTICES WEIGH IN The Supreme Court, in Stenberg v. Carhart, struck down a similar Nebraska law on the grounds that it lacked a health exception to protect the mother and it placed an “undue burden” on a woman’s right to choose because the definition of the banned procedure was too vague. Chabot said Tuesday they had tightened the language to meet the court’s objections and had accumulated evidence to prove that the procedure was “dangerous to a woman’s health, and never medically necessary.” Congress twice passed partial birth bans, but then President Clinton, citing the need for a health exception, vetoed both measures. The 2000 Supreme Court ruling sidetracked a third attempt, and a fourth attempt failed last year when the Senate, then under Democratic control, refused to take up the measure.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: abortion; pba; pbaban2003
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Yes!!!! This is what we have been waiting for. Don't let this stall. (It took me forever to copy-paste, etc.; hope it didn't end up being a duplicate)
1 posted on 06/04/2003 6:40:35 AM PDT by grania
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To: Vic3O3
Ping the pro-life folks, time to burn up some phone lines and make sure this gets passed!

Semper Fi
2 posted on 06/04/2003 6:53:25 AM PDT by dd5339 (Lookout Texas, here we come!)
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To: grania
Congress twice passed partial birth bans, but then President Clinton, citing the need for a health exception, vetoed both measures.

Nothing more needs to be said about this perverted ahole. He would rather not do anything, all the while babies were be ripped apart, than have the ba**s to do what was morally right. WHAT A POS>

3 posted on 06/04/2003 6:53:44 AM PDT by chiefqc
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Congress twice passed partial birth bans, but then President Clinton, citing the need for a health exception, vetoed both measures.

The Senate has already passed the ban. This is as good as it gets, as far as the chance for passage and signing into law. I found it very disturbing that the House of Representatives didn't get to this sooner, with the President and Senate behind it (time is lives).

I hope that GWB comes home to a bill all ready to sign!

4 posted on 06/04/2003 7:01:47 AM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: MHGinTN; Coleus; Remedy; exDemMom; Canticle_of_Deborah; Salvation; Victoria Delsoul
Big GOOD NEWS bump!
5 posted on 06/04/2003 7:42:27 AM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: kattracks; Saundra Duffy; MissAmericanPie; sarcasm; TLBSHOW; ken5050; Siobhan; chatham; ...
Good News Bump!
6 posted on 06/04/2003 7:47:04 AM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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Pro-life bump!

Let your Congress Critters know how you feel!
7 posted on 06/04/2003 7:55:40 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: grania
Bump to all of you who still think there's no difference between having the Republicans or the Democrats in charge...
8 posted on 06/04/2003 8:14:51 AM PDT by CA Conservative
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To: chiefqc
Yep - dispite his favorite phrase " it's for the children"......what, murder?
9 posted on 06/04/2003 8:46:25 AM PDT by TheBattman (Big Brother is closer than you would like to know......)
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To: grania
we can only hope:
“President Bush is taking the first step in banning all abortion procedures and ultimately banning abortion,” said Kate Michelman, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America. “This is really serious.”
10 posted on 06/04/2003 8:48:05 AM PDT by votelife (FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
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Wonderful! I hope she's shaking in her boots!
11 posted on 06/04/2003 12:41:47 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: votelife
It is on C-San now. I am taping.
12 posted on 06/04/2003 12:42:53 PM PDT by carenot
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Sue Myrick R- N.C.Wants to ban it.


Louis Slaughter D-N.Y. Wants to kill babies!

Now Iliana Ros-Lehten on now.

13 posted on 06/04/2003 12:49:32 PM PDT by carenot
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Now Bobby Scott D-Virginia wants to kill the babies
14 posted on 06/04/2003 12:52:10 PM PDT by carenot
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To: grania
Lynn Whoolsey D-California is up now
15 posted on 06/04/2003 12:58:01 PM PDT by carenot
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To: MHGinTN
Linda Sanchez D-California is up wanting to murder babies now.
16 posted on 06/04/2003 1:04:22 PM PDT by carenot
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To: votelife
Mike Turner R-Ohio is fighting for babies.
17 posted on 06/04/2003 1:07:05 PM PDT by carenot
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Please let me know what if anything either of Maines two congressman say, Mike Michuad (D) second and tom allen (d) first district. Mike has a excellent pro-life record while in the Maine Legislature.

PS. we don't have cable.

18 posted on 06/04/2003 4:13:58 PM PDT by 2timothy3.16
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To: 2timothy3.16
All the usual suspects saying all the usual things. You got the kill'em on the way out crowd and the pro life crowd.

The kill'em on the way out crowd, with RINO's Greenwood and Nancy Johnson leading the way, have offered an amendment that would ban all late term abortion EXCEPT to protect the life of the mother or to avoid ADVERSE health effects.

Sensenbreener had a greta quote from an abortionist paraphrased as such: "I will certify that ANY pregnancy is a danger to the life and/or health of the mother."

Lovely fellow.

19 posted on 06/04/2003 4:18:25 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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When one knows what a pratial birth abortion does, it is astonishing to hear people dissemble and deceive in an effort to keep this murderous 'procedure' legal! These people are defending the purposeful killing of a few thousand aware, sensing, alive infants in the political effort to protect 'a woman's right to choose' to hire a serial killer to kill other helpless individual humans. I must confess, it brings tears of sadness to these old eyes when I realize that America is divided over this indefensible evil!
20 posted on 06/04/2003 4:43:44 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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