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Illegal Irish immigrants have been working on construction sites in New York City for years.

One reason is that the contractor gets a superior product in addition to cost savings -- the training system for tradesmen in Ireland is so outstanding that the same guy who does carpentry work from Monday through Wednesday can also do electrical work on Thursday and plumbing on Friday.

I knew an Irish-American contractor in New York who would hire "his" people to work on his projects. He would pay off the union by hiring two of their workers, but upon arriving at the site these two guys were told to "do whatever you want all day, boys -- but just stay out of the way of my fellas!"

One reason is that the contractor gets a superior product in addition to cost savings -- the training system for tradesmen in Ireland is so outstanding that the same guy who does carpentry work from Monday through Wednesday can also do electrical work on Thursday and plumbing on Friday

I had heard about Irish tradesmen and when I got a chance I grabbed a crew. Nightmare. They were completely befuddled by a plumb bob. When it didn't line up they would pull it into center and pronounce it good. DWV from hell. Meandering electrical. Lots and lots of six inch putty. The BI swore that if he ever made it to Ireland he would camp out in the rain before he would ever go in a building.

Now that it's over, it was probably the funniest job I've ever done. Those guys were dangerous because they were absolutely cocksure that they knew what they were doing. Even the Mexicans were rolling their eyes.

Lots of illegal Poles working on construction in NYC who are preferred over Mexicans for the same reasons. Besides, many of the Irish who came here in the 80s/early 90s have moved back to Ireland.

Illegal Irish immigrants have been working on construction sites in New York City for years.>>>>>>>

Ilegal Irish are not walking/swimming the Atlantic by the thousands every year, I'm sure most are here on expired visas.

After the 1993 WTC bombing our gov't *said* bills would be passed to set up an "entry-exit" system on US visas, since some of THOSE terrorists were here on expired visas. Well, AFTER our electeds filled their PORK plates, I guess, they decided we didn't need this *costly* system. So these bills got buried, never put into law, no "system" in place.

Soooo.....in 2001, we have our 9-11 Terrorists (some) roaming the USA freely, again on expired visas. Because terrorists (just like our ILLEGALS) have all our 'loopholes' figured out, and they take advantage of ALL of them.

A year-and half since 9-11, 10 yrs. since the first WTC bombing, and I doubt we have an up & running "entry-exit" system YET. Maybe we need to put someone from Blockbuster Video's in charge of our visa's.....:o)