Wachowski Brother- Director of ''Matrix Reloaded' [Not the Married One] In Process of Changing Sex

The Hot Button ^ | Week of May 30-June 6 2003 | David Poland

[ewing]

I have been chewing over a very personal story about a very private person who is involved in a very public business and a very successful movie franchise.

To paraphrase a person who is better than I, these are the mometns that define us.

Unforunately these are the momnets that define the entertainment business overall.

Every indication I have that is Larry Wachowski is changing his sex.

Dressing in public as a woman, taking femal hormones and yes having a sex change operation.

[SauronOfMordor]

Them female hormones will drive you crazy!

Wachowski is not the only Hollywood celeb with gender problems. My daughter succeeded in flooring me this evening when she mentioned that in her college bio class, the prof mentioned that actress Jamie Lee Curtis (currently starring in "Freaky Friday") is actually geneticly male, and suffers from a genetic abnormality that made her develop as a female. I HAD to check on it, and found she's standardly listed on multiple college biology sources as being an example of the condition.

I'm sure there are lots of XX females who wished they looked as female as Jamie

[SauronOfMordor]

You may find post 101 very interesting.

[CobaltBlue]

Jamie Lee Curtis is very attractive, as androgynous people so often are.

I could argue that real women, like me (and I have the kids to prove it), naturally tend to be broad in the beam, but I don't think it would get me very far. ;^)

[CobaltBlue]

Your post reminds me of something a judge in the local juvenile court once relayed to me - not sure I can repeat it exactly right - occasionally cases involving hermaphroditic infants wind up in juvenile court because the parents and health care providers need someone to resolve how the child will be reared, as a male or as a female. This may involve surgery.

Glad I don't have to deal with these problems.

[Paul C. Jesup]

LOL!! You made my day. Even though I already knew that.

[CobaltBlue]

I am female, but used to be accused, back in olden times, of thinking like a man. Probably because I am direct and logical, not terribly influenced by emotional arguments.

These day you can say the same thing about a lot of women, e.g., Ann Coulter, who is a beautiful woman but one wouldn't say "she thinks like a woman."

So, what is a female brain, and what is a male brain?

If you say, "a female brain is attracted to male bodies," personally, I'd agree with you - I am not attracted to men - but we all know that lots of men are attracted to men, yet are not women or even effeminate.

As someone who is terrible at math, I could concede (although female mathematicians would disagree) that a female brain is "bad" at math -- but my spatial abilities are off the chart (excellent), and women are also "bad" at spatial abilities.

I don't think it's easy to assign genders to brains.

[CobaltBlue]

>>I am not attracted to men<< = typo. I am attracted to men, not attracted to women - could be a Freudian slip - at any rate at age 50 this is all becoming hypothetical anyway.

[CobaltBlue]

>> at any rate at age 50 this is all becoming hypothetical anyway<<

TMI? (Too Much Information). Nobody cares about the largely imaginary sex lives of middle aged women.

[CobaltBlue]

Or maybe my subconscious thinks that Jamie Lee Curtis, regardless of gender, is hot. -g-

[Paul C. Jesup]

What you are talking about is a person's personality, which can greatly very from person to person, even of the same family and gender.

What I am talking about is the physical differences between male and female brains.

For example, the speech center in a male brain is located on the outer front right side of the of the brain. While the speech center in a female brain is located in two places, the outer front right side of the brain and the outer front left side of the brain.

This same brain scan (CAT scan I think) can tell at what point in a person's life, he or she learned another lauguage. If it was as a child, then the speech center of the lauguage with be in the same place as the person's native lauguage. But if a person learn another lauguage as an adult, the second lauguage will be located and be offset from where the speech center of person's native language is located.

But before anyone says anything, these regions are on the outer parts of the brain and are constantly affected by horomones. So a male-to-female transsexual may have a male like speech center in the brain, but still lacked the testosterone wash at fetal development causing her to have a female core idenity deep in the brain.

[CobaltBlue]

Something like one out of every 20,000 males are born with androgen insensitivity syndrome, which makes them genetically male but apparently female.
http://www.emedicine.com/PED/topic2222.htm

I once knew a married couple where I was fairly certain that the wife had androgen insensitivity syndrome and was genetically male, while the husband was sort of straight but not really. It worked for them.

[Woahhs]

You flatter yourself Paul. I don't need a "defense" because I'm not the one claiming conjecture is proof. You speaking of Logic is laughable as you obviously don't know "correlation does not prove causation"...one of the fundimentals of Logic.

My last five replies do nothing but pin down the fact you are unable produce the proof you claim. And the best your obviouly limited intellectual ability can respond with is a variation on "I know you are, but what am I."

I don't know about what they call "polite" in your trailer park, but where I'm from telling someone repeatedly to "shut up" and ad hominim defense does not qualify. My belligerence is born of your intransigence.

Tell me, what exactly does Jamie Lee Curtis' genetic anomaly prove? Her behavior is atypical from other women in what way? Do you ever assess an anecdote critically?

[Tribune7]

It would be a whole lot crueler if you got up in front of those children and told them they were "mistakes."

[Tribune7]

Jesus love you.

[Paul C. Jesup]

Tell me, what exactly does Jamie Lee Curtis' genetic anomaly prove? Her behavior is atypical from other women in what way? Do you ever assess an anecdote critically?

It proves that a person with XY can still be a woman. Which backs up parts of my statement.

You wanted prove. Here is some: http://www.emedicine.com/PED/topic2222.htm

Care to refute it.

[Paul C. Jesup]

Yes it would.

[Paul C. Jesup]

Thanks for the link. It is a good article.

[MattAMiller]

Are you calling them "mistakes"?

The deformities could certainly be considered mistakes. And I don't see why being born with the wrong sexual characteristics would be considered something totally different from from being born with the wrong number of arms.

[x]

Isn't it usually the case that transgendered people are gay?

I don't know. That seems to be very common, but it has happened that men who underwent the operation found themselves developing sexual interest in women, thus becoming lesbians of a sort. To an outsider, it looks like they could have skipped the operation all together, but they don't see it that way. Sexual orientation is a piece of the puzzle, but for some it may just be an overwhelming feeling that their inner and social identities don't match.

We might think that an age of more fluid gender identities, where men and women aren't "supposed to" do things or like things based on their gender would minimize such operations. If a guy can like dolls and a chick can like trucks, why switch genders? But the reverse seems to be the case -- as sexual stereotypes grow weaker, "gender reassignment" operations increase. Go figure.

[MattAMiller]

http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/jamie.htm

This appearently not confirmed. But Curtis herself has declined to comment, which I find interesting.