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To: Stultis
For the German readers, al-Guardian's sources:

Der Tagesspiegel

Wolfowitz nennt Öl als Irak-Kriegsgrund US-Kongress soll untersuchen

Washington (Tsp/dpa). Der US-Kongress will klären, ob die Bush-Regierung die Gefahr durch irakische Massenvernichtungswaffen übertrieben hat. Der republikanische Senator John Warner sagte, die Glaubwürdigkeit von Präsident Bush, Außenminister Powell, Verteidigungsminister Rumsfeld und CIA-Direktor Tenet werde in Zweifel gezogen. Unterdessen erweiterte Vize-Verteidigungsminister Paul Wolfowitz sein Eingeständnis, dass Massenvernichtungswaffen nicht der eigentliche Kriegsgrund waren. Auf die Frage, warum man Nordkorea anders behandle als den Irak, sagte er in Singapur laut "Welt": "Der wichtigste Unterschied ist, dass wir wirtschaftlich einfach keine Wahl im Irak hatten. Das Land schwimmt auf einem Meer von Öl."

Die Welt

Im Fall Nordkorea setzt Wolfowitz auf die Anrainer

Auf die Frage, warum eine Atommacht wie Nordkorea anders behandelt würde als der Irak, wo kaum Massenvernichtungswaffen gefunden worden seien, antwortete der stellvertretende Verteidigungsminister wieder sehr offen: "Betrachten wir es einmal ganz simpel. Der wichtigste Unterschied zwischen Nordkorea und dem Irak ist der, dass wir wirtschaftlich einfach keine Wahl im Irak hatten. Das Land schwimmt auf einem Meer von Öl."


13 posted on 06/04/2003 3:16:12 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Stultis; Michael81Dus
Michael, important PING to you!
14 posted on 06/04/2003 3:20:26 PM PDT by optimistically_conservative
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To: Howlin
Could you ping your list to this thread..
16 posted on 06/04/2003 3:21:31 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Stultis
Terrible, egregious mistranslations both. Evidently both Tagesspiegel and Die Welt ran with the dpa wire copy and merely reworded it for style.

Conclusion: The dpa reporter was incompetent, malicious or both.

No one will be fired, there will be some mutual pointing of fingers, and the readers will continue to be treated as dirt.
33 posted on 06/04/2003 4:02:13 PM PDT by tictoc (On FreeRepublic, discussion is a contact sport.)
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To: Stultis
Then again, I may be wrong about this. I was too hasty in posting. Of the two German newspapers quoted by you, one (Tagesspiegel) credited dpa, so I automatically assumed dpa to be the original source.

However, the Tagesspiegel article appeared on June 3rd, while the Die Welt article (bylined Sophie Mühlmann, datelined Singapore) appeared a day earlier, on June 2nd.

The mistranslation therefore is attributable not to dpa but to Sophie Mühlmann, reporting for Die Welt from Singapore (if she was even there; might have pulled a Rick Bragg).

42 posted on 06/04/2003 4:34:57 PM PDT by tictoc (On FreeRepublic, discussion is a contact sport.)
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To: Stultis
Well, during a trial, I would bring a motion to the court, saying that "the witness is right."
If Wolfowitz said that, and I do believe it, then the US will have big problems to find friends and allies the next time. The credibility is heavily damaged. And if I were Rumsfeld, I had a new deputy Secretary today...
69 posted on 06/04/2003 10:49:50 PM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: Stultis
Good, job to all. I can read German well. The Tagesspiegel article does just what you're complaining the Guardian does. In Der Welt however they have the story in its propper context. I'd write the Tagesspiegel in a complaint if you want, but my guess is someone already did.

Wow, maybe this is that "dang liberal media" everyone's always talking about. My theory is there's just a bunch of pressure out there to get a quote of stupidity about his issue. Wolfy and Rummy have been kind of a gold mine lately.
101 posted on 06/05/2003 7:54:00 AM PDT by Lefty-NiceGuy (Good Job)
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