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To: Michael81Dus
I think it has less to do with anti-semitism than with radical opposition to the policy of Israel. And, not to forget, that Berlin is the biggest Turkish community western of Istambul.

Yikes. Turkey has a pretty good relationship with Israel. You implication is certainly out of character for the Turks who post on FR, admittedly conservatives. If you want to find non-German culprits, I wouldn’t look to the Turks.

A tenant has not the right to do what he wants with "his windows". Usually, the contract says that he has to ask for written permission of the house-owner. I guess the Israel-supporter hasn´t done that...

Not the issue. Anti-Semitic graffiti and the risk to tenants of flying an Israeli flag, not any flag, was the issue. That’s a problem. If an observant Jew, readily identifiable visually, lived in the building and posed a risk, would he have to move too, or simply change his pattern of dress?

Comparisons between the 1930´s and today are a slap into the face of all who were victims of the Nazi regime and who live in Germany of today.

Then they should revisit the history of the late 19th and early 20th century. Jews considered Germany one of the safest places in the world to live. Like America, one of the greatest concerns of the Jewish community was assimilation. Germans who recognize their own victimization at the hands of National Socialism should be sensitive to the early warning signals.

The things that are going to happen now are not comparable with the unbelievable pain jews under the Nazi regime had to suffer from., of course not, but be sensitive to their beginnings. It starts with desensitization>

I do not know any rally where people call for the death of all jews (that would be an illegal, too).

I could direct you to them. Of course, we don’t have the same laws as Germany, so they’d be here in the US

What kind of stereotype would you call me?

I enjoy your posts, but I think you’re a touch naïve, and while I accept your description of yourself as a young conservative German, some of your positions are going to be challenged on an American conservative site, they’re just aren’t always the same thing. Get used to it.

I’ll ignore the rest, since you’ve told me before you don’t want to discuss the middle east, but YOU HAVE TO STOP BRINGING UP THOSE MORAL EQUIVALENCIES, SUICIDE BOMBER=DESTROYING HIS HOUSE, assuming you really don’t want to discuss them. Your facts aren’t facts.

30 posted on 06/05/2003 3:13:40 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Although it´s after midnight here, I´ll just decided to answer you now.

Reg. Turkey: Do the Turks know that their country has a good relationship with Israel? And, it´s a matter of fact that many crimes against jews are committed by arabs, all over the world. No offense taken against the Rep. of Turkey of Turkish Freepers (why should I?).

Reg.: The dress is not an issue the houseowner can decide on. If the jew wanted to be easily identified as a jew (like the orthodox), he of course can do so.

Reg.: Why I think it is a slap for today´s Germany to compare it, is, because we have stricter laws and keep an eye on the security of our jewish communities. We know that they´re at risk, so our police takes care of them. This time, the state is actively on the side of those who need protection.

I can understand that some may get the impression that I´m naive. And I can explain from what that results. I´m actually not very good in English, I have to look up for one/two words every second post I read. I´m just a bit too lazy to read carefully (so that I misinterprete some messages) or to post precise and long messages, so that me and my discussion partners come to the point first after three or four exchanges. And, I do not post English sources or statistics of my statements, because that takes too much time for me to search the web for facts I´ve read e.g. in my newspaper.

I think I haven´t brought up that moral equivalence this time... and that´s a point on which I´m too lazy or tired to follow each new step of the MidEast peace process. I have different tests and I´m preparing for an 8-week-reserve training in summer after which I may be appointed to be Lt 2nd class, so I just say "evil is evil" - I don´t say that suicide bombings and destructions of houses etc are morally equal. I just say that I don´t differentiate between these forms of escalation (because I´m tired of that too). That´s why I blame both sides for the escalation of conflict.

In these days, I have expressed a lot my opinions on Mid East, just to show you that there are people, who have nothing against jews, but who have nothing against the simple Palestinian on the street and who just gets tired of all that violence there.

It´s not that I wanted to argue with you about it. It´s just an exchange of opinions without confrontation.

34 posted on 06/05/2003 3:32:33 PM PDT by Michael81Dus
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