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A couple of comments regarding this subject; 1)The black moslem gangs in the US prisons provide protection from rape if a prisonner converts to Islam. Thus Islamists with the support of Saudi money get foot-soldiers in the US. 2)The feminization of this culture made it only horrible if the victims of rape were women.
1 posted on 06/10/2003 8:39:44 AM PDT by philosofy123
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Soap-on-a-rope bump.
2 posted on 06/10/2003 8:41:22 AM PDT by b4its2late (Time may be a great healer, but it's also a lousy beautician.)
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Having done time, I seriously think it comes down to standing up to someone. You have to basically try to kill the person and they'll get the message. If they rape you anyway, then when you have the opportunity, you make them regret it in more ways then one.

And, if you want to survive long term, you do have to join a clique.
4 posted on 06/10/2003 8:45:37 AM PDT by 1stFreedom
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This situation is absoultely shameful. How can we possibly expect a prisoner to live a normal life upon released after our nation permits such brutal and inhuman behavior?

Prisoners should be told that if they rape anyone in jail, they get 20 years on their sentence for the first offense. life for the 2nd, and death for third. If they are already in for life, then straight to the electric chair.
5 posted on 06/10/2003 8:46:00 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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This topic should scare all males because we could end up in prison over any stupid thing on any given day. Anyone who thinks prison is only for bad people needs to read the bible.
7 posted on 06/10/2003 8:48:12 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrissssstian)
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The black moslem gangs in the US prisons provide protection from rape if a prisonner converts to Islam.

On the occasions that my brother has been in jail, he seeks and receives the same protection from the white aryan brotherhood. He's not exactly what you would call a racist, but prison makes for strange bedfellows. He strongly recomends it over being beaten senseless by the Muslims and other black gangs.
8 posted on 06/10/2003 8:49:07 AM PDT by AdA$tra (Tagline maintenance in progress......)
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Have you ever seen a young derelict on the street with a face full of tatoos?

It is probable that the person you saw was a victim of repeated rape and gang rape in prison. Prisoners like to leave their mark and pass victims around. Just a very distasteful fact about prison life.

9 posted on 06/10/2003 8:49:19 AM PDT by ex-Texan (primates capitulards toujours en quete de fromage!)
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I think the AG of CA pretty much admitted that the use of rape as punisment was State policy when he said:

"I would love to personally escort Lay to an 8-by-10 cell that he could share with a tattooed dude who says, 'Hi my name is Spike, honey.'"

http://www.equityfeminism.com/articles/2001/000077.html

12 posted on 06/10/2003 8:52:05 AM PDT by DManA
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Pretty good reason to stay out of jail (by not doing the things that puts you there) in the first place.
14 posted on 06/10/2003 8:52:38 AM PDT by sirshackleton
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The system doesn't help a lot - I am informed by an acquaintance in a position to know that you may, in fact, request solitary confinement to avoid this, but if you do any time served does not count toward "good behavior." And solitary drives people nuts.

Being the baddest dude on the cellblock doesn't help a lot either - nobody can fight off ten guys and never go to sleep. Hence prison gangs. Same reason there are street gangs - safety in numbers.

17 posted on 06/10/2003 8:59:14 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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The solution to this would be for the prison doctor to give the prisoners a drug to prevent them from getting and erection. Put it in the food or water and let everyone do their time "limp".
29 posted on 06/10/2003 9:24:30 AM PDT by LetsRok
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Prison rape is quite common. Also, remember seeing the Tom Selleck movie "An Innocent Man." If men and women are sent to prison for crimes committed, then why should the general public expect them to get rehabilitated if crimes are committed inside the prison? The prison system really needs overhauling. If the state and national legislators really wanted to accomplish something, they could give up their pay raises to help pay for the prison system overhaul.
34 posted on 06/10/2003 9:34:48 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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Violent criminals need to be confined in isolation until their trials and appeals are finished, then executed -- and all of this needs to happen as quickly as possible within the bounds of due process.

Non-violent criminals need to be put on strictly supervised probation and required to make restitution.

If these policies were implements, our prisons could be almost emptied, there would be no rape inside prisons, and our crime rate would be much lower than it is now. And, I would argue, this is all a much more humane treatement of prisoners than what we have now.

35 posted on 06/10/2003 9:35:22 AM PDT by Stefan Stackhouse
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Anyone who has read widely about these matters, including specifically the 'Gulag Archipelago', realizes that the brutalization of the mass of prisoners by unofficially-sanctioned thugs is a necessary part of the modern prison regime.

How could anyone really expect anything different?
39 posted on 06/10/2003 9:47:06 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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Student In Jail For Drugs Is Raped
49 posted on 06/10/2003 10:21:55 AM PDT by Wolfie
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51 posted on 06/10/2003 10:25:41 AM PDT by jmc813 (After two years of FReeping, I've finally created a profile page. Check it out!)
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