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Congress-woman blames Mexicans for migratory flow to U.S.
quepasa.com ^ | June 13, 2003 | Julia Astrid Enriquez

Posted on 06/12/2003 8:41:18 PM PDT by One_American

Julia Astrid Enriquez

Phoenix, Arizona, U.S., June 12, 2003 (quepasa.com) - Mexican Congresswoman and president of the 57th Human Rights Commission of the State of Sonora, Eugenia Villaseñor, blamed Mexicans for the current migratory flow since, as she told Quepasa.com in an exclusive interview, migrants feel drawn towards a mirage: "they think that in the United States the easy life, in which they own everything they wish awaits for them, knowing in advance that they will have to deal with discrimination."

She said migrants should stay in Mexico and gather all the money they pay polleros (around 5 to 6 thousand dollars) in groups of 10 or 15 people to create a good business and make a living.

Sonora, a northern Mexican state sharing a 606-km-borderline with Arizona, is a very deserted zone and the door for hundreds of undocumented migrants to the United States since this is an area hard to patrol by the American authorities.

From 1997 to date, 1,986 undocumented Mexicans have lost their lives in their attempt to get to the United States and fulfill their American dream.

Nonetheless, this Congresswoman considers his proposal un appropriate since "Mexicans lack the culture of nationalism, hard work, and real love for their country to face all together the economic crisis without emigrating into the United States to try to find nonexistent utopias.

One good choice to prevent such migratory flow, she said she had proposed the Congress' Human Rights Commission, garbage collection as a good job alternative. "A simple job that can be done by poor people. They could get together and clean the streets or abandoned lots" at a good price.

The 57th Congress Legislature, which has a three-year period, will end its term in no more than two months; however, Congresswoman Villaseñor admitted that during this period, the point of migrants' human rights has not been discussed at all, neither has a bill or law been proposed on this regard.

Nevertheless, she told Quepasa.com that for the rest of the legislature's term, she would be in charge of sending recommendations for migrants to receive "a decent treat", as well as arranging pacts with the United States to organize legal jobs on the fields.

Regarding the accusations against her party, since it was the ruling party in Mexico for decades when people started to migrate towards the U.S., she said it was the businessmen?s fault because they did not have a futuristic vision and sent all their capitals to the U.S. "It is not only one party's fault", she emphasized.

Finally, she recommended Mexico's economy be reorganized so young are not forced to emigrate to other countries seeking "unreachable dreams" and also said the migration phenomenon "is everybody's fault, Mexicans' faults, drawn by such mirage. They think they will have everything, and it's not true (...) let's believe in ourselves and not suffer discrimination in other countries." QUEPASA.COM

Translated by Oscar Montes.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: borders; illegalimmigration; immigration
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She said migrants should stay in Mexico and gather all the money they pay polleros (around 5 to 6 thousand dollars) in groups of 10 or 15 people to create a good business and make a living.....

Nonetheless, this Congresswoman considers his proposal un appropriate since "Mexicans lack the culture of nationalism, hard work, and real love for their country to face all together the economic crisis without emigrating into the United States to try to find nonexistent utopias.

Well someone down there has some common sense.

1 posted on 06/12/2003 8:41:19 PM PDT by One_American
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Get a load of this.
2 posted on 06/12/2003 8:44:22 PM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: One_American
For once someone down there speaks the truth. She has more guts than most "anti imigration" Republicans.
3 posted on 06/12/2003 8:48:04 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCCNN NYLA TIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: One_American
Wow, somebody give this woman a microphone! Her fellow citizens need to hear this. Of course, they'll probably ignore it, but they need to hear it.
4 posted on 06/12/2003 8:51:27 PM PDT by Reagan is King
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To: One_American
"El Norte" is an excellent movie about coyotes and what awaits illegals in the United States. But it hasn't been shown on PBS in many, many years.
5 posted on 06/12/2003 8:56:12 PM PDT by lakey
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To: One_American; madfly; Tancredo Fan
Somebody should introduce Mexican Congresswoman Eugenia Villasenor to U.S. Congressman Tom Tancredo.

Maybe they'd like to do the tv talkshow circuit together.

6 posted on 06/12/2003 9:04:59 PM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the *Land of Opportunity*, it*s the *Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists*!!!)
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To: One_American
She said migrants should stay in Mexico and gather all the money they pay polleros (around 5 to 6 thousand dollars) in groups of 10 or 15 people to create a good business and make a living.

Nonetheless, this Congresswoman considers his proposal un appropriate since "Mexicans lack the culture of nationalism, hard work, and real love for their country to face all together the economic crisis without emigrating into the United States to try to find nonexistent utopias.

WOW. I can't believe she said this (for the record, many immigrants are hard workers). The latter statement seems designed to incite controversy.

7 posted on 06/12/2003 9:13:37 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: 4Freedom
Somebody should introduce Mexican Congresswoman Eugenia Villasenor to U.S. Congressman Tom Tancredo.

This Congresswoman apparently no habla PCBS. Can we draft her into the top job at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave? Immediately?

8 posted on 06/12/2003 9:26:18 PM PDT by Tancredo Fan (Stop the invasion. Put the military on the borders, round up illegals, and tell Fox to shove off.)
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To: One_American
The problem in Mexico IS discrimination. Most of the population is mixed race and called mestizo. They are by and away mostly undereducated or uneducated, live in rural villages and have a hard life with little gainful employment. They are treated by the ruling elites as though dirt.

People who've emigrated from Mexico tell me it is government corruption that drove them north to a better place of laws. But when you've spent all your life finding creative ways around the bureaucratic roadblocks to life in a corrupt nation, it is a really, really hard habit to knock.

9 posted on 06/12/2003 9:35:32 PM PDT by goody2shooz
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To: Tancredo Fan
Lo siento, pero that job is reserved for Tom Tancredo. ;^)

Maybe Eugenia would like to be a Senator from New York?
10 posted on 06/12/2003 9:41:18 PM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the *Land of Opportunity*, it*s the *Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists*!!!)
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To: 4Freedom
Maybe Eugenia would like to be a Senator from New York?

Maybe she'd like to be governor of California.... they're gonna need one soon :-)

11 posted on 06/12/2003 9:43:40 PM PDT by Tancredo Fan (Stop the invasion. Put the military on the borders, round up illegals, and tell Fox to shove off.)
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To: Tancredo Fan
"Maybe she'd like to be governor of California..."

Now, that idea has potential for some significant mayhem. I like it. ;^)

12 posted on 06/12/2003 9:53:44 PM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the *Land of Opportunity*, it*s the *Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists*!!!)
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To: 4Freedom
Somebody should introduce Mexican Congresswoman Eugenia Villasenor to U.S. Congressman Tom Tancredo.

She could hook him up with more illegal cheap labor for his home stereo, eh?

13 posted on 06/12/2003 9:56:22 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: One_American
Mexican Congresswoman and president of the 57th Human Rights Commission of the State of Sonora, Eugenia Villaseñor, blamed Mexicans for the current migratory flow... She said migrants should stay in Mexico and gather all the money they pay polleros (around 5 to 6 thousand dollars) in groups of 10 or 15 people to create a good business and make a living..."Mexicans lack the culture of nationalism, hard work, and real love for their country to face all together the economic crisis without emigrating into the United States to try to find nonexistent utopias".

Of course, if this women were in the U.S. Congress, the RINOs and Democrats would accuse her of being an "hispanic-bashing" intolerant xenophobic nut that gives the GOP "a bad name". Mustn't let her darken the white house door anytime in the future. ;-)

Seriously though, you have to wonder what Mexican Party she's in. Her remarks are about 10X more down-to-earth and common sence than the "conservative" President of Mexico. If the PAN party had any brains, they'd impeach that socialist FAILURE and put this women in start fixing things at home instead of stabbing the U.S. in the back and THEN expect favors from us. I gotta keep Eugenia Villaseñor's name in mind, she's a good choice for intermin leader if we ever get "regime change" in Mexico.

Mexicans already TRIED "change" through the election process and Vicente's "change" is indistinguable from the PRI's. Obviously more drastic measures are needed.

14 posted on 06/12/2003 10:08:33 PM PDT by BillyBoy (George Ryan deserves a long term...without parole.)
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To: One_American
Congress-woman blames Mexicans for migratory flow to U.S.

Well Duh!!!!!!!

15 posted on 06/12/2003 11:28:56 PM PDT by SantosLHalper ("If the milk turns out to be sour. I'm not the kind of pu**y to drink it. 'Know what I mean?")
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To: One_American
Well someone down there has some common sense.

Impressive. Too bad she's not their president. I wonder which party she's in.

16 posted on 06/13/2003 4:30:34 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: BillyBoy
It looks like she's in the PRI party. Well at least many of those 70 years they ruled, Mexico wasn't in such a mess as it is now --- it was Salinas de Gortari who seemed to be responsible for the level and type of immigration we now have. Before there was some but not millions a year.
17 posted on 06/13/2003 4:34:49 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: One_American
Well someone down there has some common sense.

You think so? She sounds like a typical Dem. pol., blaming the people. Mexicans don't pool their money and start businesses because the corrupt government has made it a losing proposition.

"Mexicans lack the culture of nationalism, hard work, and real love for their country ...

Total horse pucky! Why do they come here and earn enough to live and send extra money home at low wages if they lack the "culture of hard work"? Why do they fly the Mexican flag and paste decals of it on their cars and celebrate Mexican holidays if they lack nationalism and love of country? She's and idiot. What they lack is the means and inspiration to drag smug bureaucrats like this out in the street and shoot them.

18 posted on 06/13/2003 4:36:46 AM PDT by TigersEye (Joe McCarthy was right!)
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To: TigersEye
Agree wholeheartedly. I see a lot of evidence of nationalism (and anti-Americanism). I see evidence that they are hard-working. But it is a culture of corruption where they prey on each other, the rich on the poor, with impunity, while the government turns a blind eye.
19 posted on 06/13/2003 5:27:24 AM PDT by DC native
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To: One_American
One good choice to prevent such migratory flow, she said she had proposed the Congress' Human Rights Commission, garbage collection as a good job alternative. "A simple job that can be done by poor people. They could get together and clean the streets or abandoned lots" at a good price.

OK, fine enough that she thinks Mexicans should stay in Mexico. But regarding the above statement, where does she expect the money to come from to pay for these people to clean the streets and abandoned lots "at a good price." If there were money in it, Mexicans wouldn't be emigrating.
20 posted on 06/13/2003 6:55:00 AM PDT by Conservative til I die (They say anti-Catholicism is the thinking man's anti-Semitism; that's an insult to thinking men)
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To: One_American
I don't even know if I did this right. I'm new to Freepers. I like it though. This article says what I've been saying for years. Fix your country and make your own country self sufficient.

However, Mexico has this mentallity: "Why fix your cardboard box when there's an unguarded castle nextdoor?"
21 posted on 06/13/2003 7:52:23 AM PDT by noh8rs (Savage/Nugent '08)
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To: One_American
IS THIS FROM "THE ONION"???

This CAN'T be real!

22 posted on 06/13/2003 7:57:36 AM PDT by montag813
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To: One_American
That kind of contrary opinion in Mexico can be hazardous to one's health. I hope the Congresswoman has adequate protection for herself and her family.
23 posted on 06/13/2003 8:04:05 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: FITZ
PRI was a communist party that martyred priests like Miguel Pro, S. J., banned the saying of Mass, tried to blow up the Basilica at Guadalupe, invited Trotsky to Mexico and then invited the soviets to come and drive an ice pick or axe into his brain, and then created and imposed every bit of the corruption that most of you guys complain about as a substitute for the communist god that failed.

If you were born a mestizo in Mexico, you would be trying to figure out how to go free and head for El Norte too, at least if you had any gumption.

24 posted on 06/13/2003 8:20:59 AM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Kumbayaism delenda est!)
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To: BlackElk
The PAN party is no better. Aren't you glad our Founding Fathers didn't take that same approach and just find some country to go to? It's better when people stay and demand changes. It does the rest no good at all when those who desire a better life leave and things just get worse. It's like this woman says --- Mexicans don't have a patriotic culture, they're too willing to just get out but then demand we respect their culture and help them keep their language and all the rest. Why don't they become a people who fixes their problems instead of escaping them?
25 posted on 06/13/2003 8:27:01 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: TigersEye
Why do they fly the Mexican flag and paste decals of it on their cars and celebrate Mexican holidays if they lack nationalism and love of country?

Maybe guilt? It's easy to pretend you are patriotic but you aren't if you aren't willing to fight for your own country and improve it. If they loved their country, they'd fix it ----patriotic Americans did that, they demanded change and they got it.

26 posted on 06/13/2003 8:30:28 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Black Agnes; Marine Inspector
ping
27 posted on 06/13/2003 11:25:37 AM PDT by Coleus (God is Pro Life and Straight http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/notify?detach=1)
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To: 4Freedom
Love Congresswoman Villasenor, may her voice be heard loud and clear throughout this land of the free. May the truth she proclaims overwhelm the waves of political agendas that keep the borders open!
28 posted on 06/13/2003 11:42:19 AM PDT by Hila
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To: BlackElk
No, you would try to make your country better like we had to do against the Brits.
29 posted on 06/13/2003 12:28:07 PM PDT by noh8rs (Savage/Nugent '08)
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To: Tancredo Fan
Que Bueno!
30 posted on 06/13/2003 2:18:58 PM PDT by Stillwillin
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To: One_American
"they think that in the United States the easy life, in which they own everything they wish awaits for them, knowing in advance that they will have to deal with discrimination."

Oh, mistreat the people, treat them racistly as subhumans, and then blame them too for running away to the US. Yeah, the "people" hear you, idiot.

31 posted on 06/13/2003 4:34:36 PM PDT by JudgemAll
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To: One_American
Well they can't call her an "Uncle Tom", so how will she be vilified by Fox and the criminals crossing the border.


Eaker

32 posted on 06/13/2003 4:38:31 PM PDT by Eaker (Adiós reality; I want to be a Jack-Ass millionaire!!............;<)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; TigersEye
They are harder workers than anyone else I know. I found the article to be very offensive - on many levels. And very simplistic ... and stupid.
33 posted on 06/13/2003 5:05:39 PM PDT by Rabid Dog
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To: DC native; Rabid Republican
...it is a culture of corruption where they prey on each other, the rich on the poor, with impunity, while the government turns a blind eye.

You're right. I think the government has set the tone for their culture and created a condition that cries out for escape. While I have compassion for that I don't think we have a responsibility to provide a place to escape to. They can petition their own government for redress of their grievances.

This woman sounds like a typical sniveling "special class" politician. Rape the people and then blame them for the resultant distress. Reminds me of Clinton saying no to tax cuts because we wouldn't handle the money competently.

Ropes, bullets, tar and chicken feathers are the proper answer for them.

34 posted on 06/13/2003 6:25:11 PM PDT by TigersEye (Joe McCarthy was right...and so was PT Barnum.)
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To: TigersEye
I don't think we have a responsibility for them either, but I sure don't begrudge them one bit. The Mexican government is the bad guy and I'm not sure they are in a hurry to do something about it. I read somewhere that the coyote business is a billion dollar business - second only to drugs - and I imagine it is lining the same pockets.
35 posted on 06/13/2003 6:29:41 PM PDT by Rabid Dog
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To: FITZ
If they loved their country, they'd fix it ----

You and I know that because our forefathers did it ... and succeeded. They've tried a couple of times and just got new tyrants and theives. I agree with you but revolution requires guns, money and a lot of hope. This lady sounds like the Patty Murray of Mexico to me.

36 posted on 06/13/2003 6:33:45 PM PDT by TigersEye (Joe McCarthy was right...and so was PT Barnum.)
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To: Rabid Republican
I imagine it is lining the same pockets.

I don't doubt that for a minute.

37 posted on 06/13/2003 6:35:18 PM PDT by TigersEye (Joe McCarthy was right...and so was PT Barnum.)
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To: TigersEye
They have a lot of weapons in Mexico ---it's just that they're used in the drug wars they have amongst themselves. I don't think an honest Mexican is betraying her people --it's time they take an honest look at their society.
38 posted on 06/13/2003 6:37:36 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: One_American
Bump
39 posted on 06/13/2003 6:40:39 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (~~~ http://www.ourgangnet.net ~~~~~)
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To: PRND21
Aren't they all working for you?
40 posted on 06/13/2003 6:41:27 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: Rabid Republican
They are harder workers than anyone else I know. I found the article to be very offensive - on many levels. And very simplistic ... and stupid.

Do you live and work in Mexico? She may see things in that culture you've never seen. We see that same thing here, many more Mexicans are living on welfare in the housing projects than are out working hard on the farms here. Just because some are hard workers doesn't mean 100% are ---and take a very close look at Mexico --- hard work didn't get it that way. Hard work didn't make them the number one drug dealing country in the world either ---corruption did that.

The elites of Mexico don't tend to get their good jobs through any kind of hard work --they use their "connections", the poor sometimes work hard ---but they work hard and not smart. Look at Mexican farms ---everything is still done by hand -- a large farm might have one tractor and the field hands are doing everything manually ---very inefficient.

41 posted on 06/13/2003 6:42:46 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: One_American
She's got the right idea, but she's drowned out by official voices in the Government, Media and Academia who are promoting colonization of Texas and the Southwest through illegal immigration.
42 posted on 06/13/2003 6:44:31 PM PDT by Guillermo (Proud Infidel)
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To: FITZ
Those weapons are essentially owned by the ruling class as drug lords don't belong to the peasant class and get protection from the only other armed Mexicans, the Federales. There are millions of peasants in Mexico, far outweighing any class divisions that have ever existed in this country. Freed blacks in the south immediately following the Civil War had more political, economic and social clout than these people do.
43 posted on 06/13/2003 6:48:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (Joe McCarthy was right...and so was PT Barnum.)
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To: DumpsterDiver
ping for later reading
44 posted on 06/13/2003 7:08:16 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: TigersEye
They could get guns in the US easily enough --- they passively leave their homeland but they don't get an attitude of fighting for it, liberating it. I think some may in the near future --if the borders are ever closed. Plus I think there are at least some Mexicans who don't want to give up their own lands to become some meek gardeners for Americans.
45 posted on 06/13/2003 7:14:32 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
--if the borders are ever closed.

You are right, there. For our part we need to close the border, end welfare, citizenship by birth and let the Mexican government firmly know that their stuff stinks and we support a change however it has to occur. The U.S. isn't moving on any of that right now so our stuff doesn't smell too good either.

We aren't helping Mexico or Mexicans by taking excess baggage off of their hands. The ones that really want, actually need, change can't afford a gun unless they come here and work. If they can work here in peace and prosperity why go back and die fighting in an uphill battle? If we close the borders they can't come here for money or guns. Catch 22 any way you look at it.

46 posted on 06/13/2003 7:33:20 PM PDT by TigersEye (Joe McCarthy was right...and so was PT Barnum.)
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To: TigersEye
I think Bush could help by telling Fox firmly that it's time for some real reforms. For one Fox could start by doing something about the fast escalating violent crime in cities like Juarez. Threatening to shut down the border is a great way to get the Mexican leaders moving --- the campesinos did just that this winter and they got concessions on NAFTA.
47 posted on 06/13/2003 7:49:54 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
Agreed. Sure wish he would.
48 posted on 06/13/2003 7:53:25 PM PDT by TigersEye (Joe McCarthy was right...and so was PT Barnum.)
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To: FITZ
I live in Southern California and our agriculture, construction and restaurant business runs on these people's backs. I'm fairly attuned to the illegal population - for a variety of reasons. These people are not the ones on welfare. Many have fake social security cards and pay taxes, workmen's comp, social security - all of which they never see again. I'm not sure where you live, but I bet the vast majority of people on welfare are indeed U.S. citizens.

As far as working the farm by hand, these people are dirt poor and can't afford equipment. They also can't afford to send their kids to school (it's not free like it is here) and so the cycle of poverty continues.


49 posted on 06/13/2003 8:47:47 PM PDT by Rabid Dog
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To: Pelham
Aren't they all working for you?

No. Unlike Tancredo I can hook up my stereo without hiring ILLEGALS.

50 posted on 06/13/2003 8:52:58 PM PDT by PRND21
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