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christianity is for losers
Relevant Magazine ^ | May (?) 2003 | Jeremy Klaszus

Posted on 06/12/2003 8:44:09 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife

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To: ovrtaxt
What does the Jewishness of Christianity have to do with it?

Christianity focused on the individual's relationship with G-d, as you said, but not on that exclusively. Judaism focuses on the nation's relationship with G-d and Jesus did nothing to reduce that.

The only thing that matters for our salvation is our personal faith, yet we use our personal faith to encourage the correct behavior of our nation because the blessing of the nation depends on the righteousness of the nation, not its individuals.

Christianity teaches us both the importance of personal righteousness and national righteousness. That's why the Christian who is rendering unto Caesar does as much as he can to keep Caesar righteous.

And that's why we fight perversion in our culture as well as in our hearts.

Shalom.

81 posted on 06/13/2003 5:04:20 PM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: SERE_DOC
Jorge... dude, it's an opinion or one's "take" not a theological edict.

Actually it's not just an "opinion", and is not presented it as such, but in fact cites sound Biblical doctrine to support it's premise to make a theological point.

And I don't disagree with that point in general.

What I do disagree with is the confusing and almost contradictory language throughout the article...and most importantly the title that so easily lends itself to misinterpretation... seems designed to do so for the purpose of causing controversy..
I think it is juvenile.

82 posted on 06/13/2003 5:12:35 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: ArGee
Ah, I see your point in terms of national responsibility. Very true and perceptive. (and we had better watch our step with Israel...)

But, you have to admit that God will bless an individual lavishly- regardless of political or economic circumstances- because of his personal commitment to the Kingdom. Remember His conversation with Abraham over the judgment of Sodom. He was not unjust to a single man, but made provision even for a righteous man's family, when He sent His messengers to remove Lot for Abraham's sake.

So, in the end, the individual overrides the nation in terms of God's favor. see Psalm 91. </preach off> :)
83 posted on 06/13/2003 5:24:52 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Proud to be humble.)
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To: wolfman
I think the writer was alluding to the fact that we all are losers, all fall short, and all have the capablity of becoming winners, with God's grace. If you replace the word loser, with sinner, it is easier to see his point.
84 posted on 06/13/2003 5:45:31 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: Doomonyou
Excellent! :)
85 posted on 06/13/2003 9:17:14 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
bump
86 posted on 06/15/2003 4:02:59 PM PDT by mamaduck (I follow a New Age Guru . . . from 2000 years ago.)
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To: mamaduck
I like your tagline... I am sure you hear that often! :)
87 posted on 06/15/2003 4:06:00 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Yes, it is. And these came to mind:
Luke 9:24, "For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it."

1 Corinthians 1:26-29, "For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: 27   But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; 28   And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: 29   That no flesh should glory in his presence."

1 Corinthians 15:43, "It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:"

2 Corinthians 2:6-11, "But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us. 8   We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; 9   Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed; 10   Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body. 11   For we which live are always delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh."

2 Corinthians 12:9, "And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me."

2 Corinthians 13:4, "For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward you."

88 posted on 06/15/2003 4:20:56 PM PDT by aruanan
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