To: MHGinTN
The only fully functioning human being is one that is out of the womb and alive.
A fetus is human (if it came from a woman), but that does not make it fully functional.
While I am pro-life, I do not believe the Baby has 'life' until it breathes it's first breath, that is what it is designed to do.
Premature babies DO breath, so they ualify, but a baby in the womb does not 'have life' in the spiritual sense, i believe.
Don't misread me, this view does not justify elective abortions, it just does not agree with what many say as to when 'life' begins, for I do not believe that can be measured physically, it is a spiritual event, displayed as evidence in breath of the baby outside the womb.
The Mother is supporting the child, it is oxygen from the mother that is feeding the child, and it is the life from the mother that keeps the child alive, else, early born children would all live (so to speak(, right? If the 'life' was totally dependant on the child?
My reasons are based on Genesis
To: RaceBannon
There are many who believe as you do, RB.
GEnesis 2:4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created.
Genesis 2:7 the LORD God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being. NIV (my emphasis added)
When I read those words, I am drawn to believe that the man was a being, alive, but the breath of God is the Holy Spirt, according to other scriptures. When God breathed into the man's nostrils, God imparted spirit, into the special place that is the human soul, raising man above the other animals of the earth ... or so I believe. When man fell from grace, Adam's human spirit was no longer 'living'. Because Adam's human spirit was no longer 'alive', the Grace of God comes now to the human family through the Salvation offered through Jesus ... I am lead to believe.
But I won't argue these things with you, though there are some here at FR who will likely appreciate the opportunity to address these notions, and perhaps rebuke the both of us.
37 posted on
06/13/2003 9:29:34 PM PDT by
MHGinTN
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To: RaceBannon
The Mother is supporting the child, it is oxygen from the mother that is feeding the child, and it is the life from the mother that keeps the child alive, else, early born children would all live (so to speak(, right? If the 'life' was totally dependant on the child?
The unborn child actually does breath. He (or she) just uses some other organ to do it with (the umbilical cord). It doesn't matter where the air comes from (mother, open air, artifical respirator); it matters if the unborn child can take in good air, and expel bad air (respiration: breathing). The unborn child does do this. It's techincally inaccurate to claim that the mother feeds the unborn air. The mother provides it, and the unborn uses the umbilical cord to retrieve it. The unborn child may depend on the mother to keep the available required oxygen stable, but adults depend on gravity to keep the available required oxygen stable.. just in a different way. Outside or inside the womb, it's an environment, and we're all dependent on the environment.
-The Hajman-
38 posted on
06/13/2003 9:38:29 PM PDT by
Hajman
To: RaceBannon
The only fully functioning human being is one that is out of the womb and alive. Even then, they're completely dependent if not on the mother, on someone else who'll bring them food, change their diapers, burp them and whatever else they need to have done. A newborn is only slightly more self-reliant than a pre-born.
40 posted on
06/14/2003 11:01:54 AM PDT by
FITZ
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