Home-schooling standoff (MA Liberals try to get state custody for 'abused' home-schooled kids)

Metrowest Daily ^ | 6/13/03 | Beecher

[safisoft]

Furthermore, why should these kids be excemt from testing? Why must they be the exception to the rule?

Who gets to set the rules? The state? What if some day they make it a "rule" that parents who teach their children that liberals are evil must give up their children - would that be an acceptable "rule"? Which "rules" would be over the top for you? Or all of them legitimate? Maybe a tax on tea? How about special government stamps for all official business? Those don't sound too bad now do they? Yo, King George, we changed our mind...

The government is poking into areas are not their business, while real crimes are constantly committed. It is kind of like setting speed traps on Interstates - while the side streets are in the hands of rapists, murderers, etc.

[Dark Wing]

FYI

[MineralMan]

"These folks sure do look like nutballs."

Well, Nyssa's a cutie, for sure.

[Lunatic Fringe]

"We don't want to take the test. We have taken them before and I don't think they are a fair assessment of what we know," said Nyssa Bryant. "And no one from DSS has ever asked us what we think."

She sounds like a well-spoken young lady for 13 years old. I can imagine what a public-schooled student would say.

"We don wanna take no test. We took em before and they ain't fair."

[thoughtomator]

It is indeed tyranny. It should disturb the hell out of you how blatant it is and how thoroughly and easily it reaches into ever facet of American life.

[freeeee]

OMG!!! Is that a PITBULL in that picture???

I'm amazed the 4 cops that came with DSS didn't riddle it with bullets "for the children".

[Sloth]

Furthermore, why should these kids be excemt from testing? Why must they be the exception to the rule?

What gives the state the right to impose such a rule in the first place?

[Notwithstanding]

There is evidence that government education system is not a safe place for kids nor a place that fosters learning.

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Found on the net:

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One of the misuses of the words "schooling" and
"education" is the common reference to "compulsory
education." That is a misnomer if there ever was
one. There are no compulsory education laws--laws
which require that all children be educated. As is
commonly known, huge numbers are not educated to any
minimum level, including many who graduate from
high school.

[CyberCowboy777]

Tyranny Ping

[thoughtomator]

To me, they look like completely average people. If I passed those people in the street I probably would barely even register their existence... and I tend to be pretty aware of my surroundings (you gotta be, living in NYC).

[CyberCowboy777]

Ping

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

Looks like a Wheaton. Probably has such a nervous twitch they ran out of ammo after missing repeatedly:)

[Mr. Lucky]

You'll be glad to know the United States Supreme Court agreed with you in a similar case 32 years ago. the Peoples Republic of Wisconsin threatened Amish parents with all sorts of vile punishments because they deprived their children of the benefits of a government sanctioned education. In Wisconsin v. Yoder, the Supreme Court ruled that the 1st Amendment trumps the Department of Education.

[thoughtomator]

Even if you accept that not submitting your children to the test is a crime (which I don't), wouldn't you say that stealing the children qualifies as an 'excessive' fine under the 8th Amendment (or alternately, as a 'cruel' punishment)?

[TaxRelief]

What on earth looks nutty about this family?
They look like a perfectly normal family.
What don't you like? The dog?

[cmsgop]

Ping

[BureaucratusMaximus]

"We have legal custody of the children and we will do with them as we see fit," DSS worker Susan Etscovitz told the Bryants in their Gale Street home. "They are minors and they do what we tell them to do."

Ah! The sweet smell of public education. Last time I checked, I have legal custody of my child; and I will raise him and educate him the way I see fit. Aside from that basic fact, through the involuntary confiscation of my income in the form of taxation for the funding and existance of DSS and public education, I would conclude that I have more of a say than this hitler-wannabie _itch and all her uncaring, communist bureaucrats! Kudos to this family for having the gnads to stand up for principle, freedom, and common sense in parenting.

[cmsgop]

He is kidding, I believe.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Let me get this right. DSS had no legal authority to do anything with those kids and the police were there and also said that they had no intention of forcefully taking the children. Right?

Okay, my instructions to the DSS busybody would be this, "I will not discuss the matter with you nor anyone you bring. Please leave my property or I will ask these nice officers to arrest you for trespassing. Good bye and good riddance."