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To: Ohioan
There may be a propagandist's advantage to dwelling on an incidental consequence of such a war, that has the effect of liberating a people from tyranny. But there can be no moral justification for waging war solely for that latter purpose.

No moral justification? Surely you jest...

32 posted on 06/14/2003 10:51:27 AM PDT by general_re (ABSURDITY, n.: A statement or belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion.)
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To: general_re
"But there can be no moral justification for waging war solely for that latter purpose."

Ah, yes. Freedom from tyranny is no justification for war. The European communist has stated his true opinion.

What he means is, freedom from tyranny is no justification for war unless one seeks to destroy liberal democracy. In that case, all forms of warfare are "justified." What one must not do, however, is seek justification for a war of liberation against Stalinists and Fascists.

34 posted on 06/14/2003 11:01:22 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: general_re
I do not jest about something as serious as War.

If there is no direct American interest, there can be no justification under our system, for Americans to wage war. Our young men are not the playthings of our politicians. Our Government must act under the authority given it by the Constitution, or it acts illegally--and obviously immorally.

For an exposition on foreign policy issues, etc., see An American Foreign Policy.

There is a clear distinction between what may be permissible to a monarchy, that can trace its legitimacy back to a Feudal system, where in effect the population were the virtual property of the sovereign--and hence could be put at risk for his values, even if not related to their own direct interests as a people. But that is not the nature of the American Government, nor the American system. That is not the compact we embraced in the Constitution, after the compact theory of our system, set forth in the Declaration, was vindicated in the Revolution.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

36 posted on 06/14/2003 11:05:09 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: general_re

Strangely enough, this man will get his wish.

There will come a time, and I suspect sooner rather than later, when the world shows itself for the squalid place that it is. The Eurotrash, the African President's-For-Life, the shifty Asian con men lining their pockets with their subjects' taxes, and the loathsome creatures who rule the Middle East, have no interest in pursuing any sort of peaceful global order. The articles of capitalism: the rule of law, the principle of sanctity of contract, and the doctrines of representative government have no meaning out there.

We will tire of this. And then, once our Middle Eastern mission has gone sour, we will return home. In point of fact, there will be not global expansion, as this popinjay author believes, but a global retrenchment resembling the neutrality period of the 1930's. Only it will be an armed neutrality. September 11th has insured that.

The American people are not an imperial people. That is the central fact that puts paid to the straw man contstructed by the author.

This man will get his wish. We shall withdraw. And once we do, the world will go to hell. He is lucky. He will not live to see it.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

37 posted on 06/14/2003 11:08:41 AM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi has returned! Tanned, rested, and ready.....)
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