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1 posted on 06/14/2003 6:17:31 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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2 posted on 06/14/2003 6:17:57 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Marriage is the best way to raise children.

Think about it, you are three years old, would you rather have just mom on your side? Or just dad?

Or would you rather have both of them working as a team on your behalf?

3 posted on 06/14/2003 6:24:52 PM PDT by LibKill (MOAB, the greatest advance in Foreign Relations since the cat-o'-nine-tails!)
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It is amazing, how it takes so much research to confirm the obvious. (((shaking head)))

Good article!
C.E.

5 posted on 06/14/2003 6:29:55 PM PDT by Capitalist Eric
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Does Hollywood know reality? As cohabitation and one-night stands become more prevalent and the institution of marriage loses validity, women may believe that their “freedom” gives them more power, but ironically they are endangering themselves and subjecting their children to a vicious cycle of abuse. A 1995 U.S. Department of Justice study showed that women were the victims of more than 4.5 million violent crimes, and intimate partners committed 29 percent of single offender crimes.

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The problem is that the free-wheeling life styles being solf by Hollywood, Madison Avenue, by even recent presidents, by Playboy, by Cosmopolitan and so dominent in the psychological environment that people doubt the realities instead of the mistruth being sold to them.

6 posted on 06/14/2003 6:58:29 PM PDT by RLK
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Oh you old fogey. Don't ya know their "liberated". Look at all the benefits. These are intelligent women that are lining up in droves for an alternate lifestyle.

Have a Happy Father's Day! That is if one of these "liberated" women haven't ran off with your children or murdered them in the womb.
10 posted on 06/14/2003 7:48:34 PM PDT by kuma
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Good stuff. Rockford Institute (Family in America) published similar numbers/studies around 15 years ago.

Since the numbers haven't changed, that means they are valid. No surprise.
12 posted on 06/14/2003 8:02:22 PM PDT by ninenot (Joe McCarthy was RIGHT, but Drank Too Much)
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This article suffers from the classic correllation/causation fallacy.

Childbirth out of wedlock, and cohabitation thereafter with the father (or with some other man) are, in the United States, massively correllative with poverty and with residing in the most downtrodden of inner cities and trailer parks. "Murphy Brown" and "Miranda Hobbes" just don't exist in meaningful number in the real world.

Crime and abuse of all sorts occur with greater frequency in those places, and to those people, regardless of whether or not they're married, or when they marry. And, even in the same hard-off communities and reduced economic circumstances, it is difficult to make an accurate analysis, since the kind of people who marry before they have kids are markedly different BEFORE they make those decisions in terms of religious, eductational, and social orientations from their neighbors who don't make that decision.

(It's the same fallacy, of course, that leads people to assert that cohabitation before marriage "causes" higher rates of divorce, when, of course, the statistics prove only that the sort of people who are reluctant to cohabitate are the same sort of people who are reluctant to divorce.)

This is isn't to say that I don't think marriage has its benefits, or approve of people raising families out of wedlock (I don't!), just that this study doesn't prove that, all else equal, marrying at a particular time has a positive effect upon the outcomes of particular individuals.
13 posted on 06/14/2003 8:13:39 PM PDT by only1percent
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Did this article mention a higher risk of sexual abuse, or did I just miss it? I saw that the kids were more likely to commit those crimes, but not to have them perpetrated on them. I'd like to see what the increased correlation is, since I know several of my friends growing up were sexually abused by live-ins and step-dads. Out of five friends who were sexually abused (that told me about it), only one was by her natural father (divorced) and the rest were live-ins and a step-dad. It seemed to me like there was a much greater chance of sexual abuse if the parents were divorced and there was a new guy in town. Does anyone know if this can be backed up by research? It's a sad thing to think about.

Not saying steps and boyfriends can't be really great people, just saying I knew about a few who were and a few who weren't.
14 posted on 06/14/2003 8:17:13 PM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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..jump in and out of bed with the hot man of the moment, no strings attached…

Sure. Ever hear of STD’s? How about cervical cancer?

I was recently talking with a man who analyzed the results from microscopic inspection of PAP smear slides. He said a college town down the road had a disproportionate number of abnormal results. The reason? He believes it was the result of multiple sexual partners.

It’s a funny thing about the Bible. Follow it, and things may or not turn out as you hoped. Ignore it and you may be in for things that no one could have foreseen.

15 posted on 06/14/2003 9:18:08 PM PDT by Barnacle (A Human Shield against the onslaught of Leftist tripe.)
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To quote Gomer Pyle: "SurPRISE, surPRISE, surPRISE."
18 posted on 06/14/2003 10:36:41 PM PDT by TradicalRC (Fides quaerens intellectum.)
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There's a country song in here somewhere.
20 posted on 06/14/2003 10:38:43 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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" Women like Rachel, the independent single mom, on the popular sitcom ‘Friends,’ choose not to marry the father,"

Let's be reasonable here. Ross is such a total dork, of COURSE she wouldn't want to marry him. Some things are worse then single-motherhood.
22 posted on 06/14/2003 11:43:01 PM PDT by tlb
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