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A darker side of pot growing Diesel, oil contamination a slippery, but serious problem
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Posted on 06/17/2003 3:30:04 AM PDT by chance33_98

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To: MrLeRoy; chance33_98
"why risk legal profits to avoid the relatively small costs of legally handling pollutants?"

Because if MJ were legal, it would be grown outside in the dirt. No need for generators to power underground growrooms.

21 posted on 06/17/2003 6:58:51 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: chance33_98; Illbay
You're brave. These threads bring out the dumb pro-druggies here at FReep.

However, in our favor, not a-one of them is a Republican. They're all Liberaltarians so the rest of us just ignore them.

I'm sure 10 of them will jump in and call me every name in the book now. But Liberaltarians get .5% of the vote, and JR seems to be quite sick of them these days (see the note where he wants to call FReep a Republican Discussion Group).
22 posted on 06/17/2003 7:08:18 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: Wolfie; vin-one; WindMinstrel; philman_36; Beach_Babe; jenny65; AUgrad; Xenalyte; Bill D. Berger; ..
WOD Ping
23 posted on 06/17/2003 7:09:21 AM PDT by jmc813 (After two years of FReeping, I've finally created a profile page. Check it out!)
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To: viligantcitizen
if MJ were legal, it would be grown outside in the dirt. No need for generators to power underground growrooms.

Another good point.

24 posted on 06/17/2003 7:10:31 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: chance33_98
Let's solve the whole problem by making heroin, LSD, crack, meth all legal, cheaper, more readily available.
25 posted on 06/17/2003 7:12:53 AM PDT by dennisw (What wit!)
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
dumb pro-druggies

No fact or logic, just namecalling. Duly noted.

not a-one of them is a Republican.

At least one anti-WOSD FReeper is a longtime GOP contributor, as he mentioned in a post the other day. And I vote for far more Republicans than Libertarians.

Liberaltarians get .5% of the vote, and JR seems to be quite sick of them these days

Actually, in a thread the other day he called them "our friends."

26 posted on 06/17/2003 7:15:04 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
You're brave. These threads bring out the dumb pro-druggies here at FReep.

Jim Robinson has recently asked for FReeprs to cool down on the personal attacks, especially outside of the Smokey Backroom.

However, in our favor, not a-one of them is a Republican. They're all Liberaltarians so the rest of us just ignore them.

I can safely bet that I have done more for Republicans, time and money wise in the last two election cycles than you have.

I'm sure 10 of them will jump in and call me every name in the book now. But Liberaltarians get .5% of the vote, and JR seems to be quite sick of them these days

Is that why he called Libertarians "our friends" the other day, and supports most of the platform of the small-l libertarian Republican Liberty Caucus?

see the note where he wants to call FReep a Republican Discussion Group).

It's unchristian to lie. He floated the idea to FReepers and by about a 99% margin, they rejected the idea.

27 posted on 06/17/2003 7:16:00 AM PDT by jmc813 (After two years of FReeping, I've finally created a profile page. Check it out!)
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To: dennisw
Let's solve the whole problem by making heroin, LSD, crack, meth all legal, cheaper, more readily available.

Nah, I think it would be better to execute the bastard who sell them, but not drunk drivers.

28 posted on 06/17/2003 7:17:40 AM PDT by jmc813 (After two years of FReeping, I've finally created a profile page. Check it out!)
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To: jmc813
My program is to try and execute those who push heroin, LSD, crack, meth.

Your program is to make heroin, LSD, crack, meth all legal, cheaper, more readily available. So you want to kill more users while I want to have the pushers killed (trial + execution)
29 posted on 06/17/2003 7:22:52 AM PDT by dennisw (What wit!)
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To: dennisw
My program is to try and execute those who push heroin, LSD, crack, meth.

That wouldn't make a significant difference. Dealers now face an imminent threat of death from competitors or twitchy customers, yet they continue dealing, and when one dies or is arrested another springs up to take his place.

Your program is to make heroin, LSD, crack, meth all legal, cheaper, more readily available.

Relegalization would reduce the following effects of the War On Some Drugs: deaths of innocents in drug-turf wars; deaths of users due to impurities or unexpectedly high potencies; enrichment of criminals; corruption of the justice system by enriched criminals; and lessened respect for the law in general.

30 posted on 06/17/2003 7:27:24 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: dennisw
Your program is to make heroin, LSD, crack, meth all legal, cheaper, more readily available.

Like hell it is. Don't assume that I want to legalize all drugs all because I disagree with your execution plans.

I still don't know why you don't want to execute drunk drivers, who kill much more people than drug dealers.

31 posted on 06/17/2003 7:28:55 AM PDT by jmc813 (After two years of FReeping, I've finally created a profile page. Check it out!)
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You are pro legalization. So just pot and not the hard drugs? You're just a pot head?
32 posted on 06/17/2003 7:31:46 AM PDT by dennisw (What wit!)
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To: MrLeRoy
"Plenty"? There's alcohol, if you're looking for a depressant and don't mind vomiting and hangovers. What are some other of these "plenty of ways"?

Like drugs there are varying levels of alcohol, beer, whiskey, wine, mixed drinks, etc. Yes, not exactly a plethora of choices, but you can choose your strength and flavor, as well as amount.

Who risks that---the dealer? He's not looking to get wasted but to make big profits.

I have no sympathy for either the dealers or the users. As I have said before, if you don't like the law work within the framework set up to change it. These folks are choosing not to do so. While they expect the rest of soceity to abide by the laws they choose to simply ignore them because they have no self control. If they want to do so to make a political statement, fine. But when you know the consequences, however wrong some may see them, and you go ahead and do it than you have no one but yourself to blame.

You want to end the wod, fine with me. I have no problem with like minded people gathering to change a law they see as wrong. We wouldn't need a wod if people who wanted to do drugs spent their time working within the system to change the law instead of running around breaking them.

I don't like the change in the abortion law. I am not going to go around bombing abortion clinincs, it only hurts the cause. Addicts who run around justifying their crime because of the high price of drugs, due to the wod, aren't helping their cause either.

People are willing to kill, steal, etc just to get money to get high on - do we blame the person who is doing the act, or do we take the liberal stance and blame someone else?

33 posted on 06/17/2003 7:32:42 AM PDT by chance33_98 (www.hannahmore.com -- Shepherd Of Salisbury Plain is online, more to come! (my website))
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To: dennisw
You are pro legalization.

Quit lying about me.

So just pot and not the hard drugs?

I think the immediate goal should be to restore respect for the Constitution and end the Federal Drug War. At that point each state should set it's own policies. In my state I would like to see hard drugs remain illegal. I do think it's pathetic tht pot is still illegal though.

You're just a pot head?

You're just a habitual drunk driver?

34 posted on 06/17/2003 7:34:38 AM PDT by jmc813 (After two years of FReeping, I've finally created a profile page. Check it out!)
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To: MrLeRoy
Cheaper drugs mean more addictions and drug deaths for you to get yr social Darwinist rocks off. "More oxygen for me" as your compadre hodar put it.

How's yr 50 latest posts doing? Have you been posting about anything other than drugs? You are a well known addict to the drug threads at FR. You got a jones.
35 posted on 06/17/2003 7:35:37 AM PDT by dennisw (What wit!)
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To: chance33_98
I don't like the change in the abortion law.

Roe v. Wade has about as much Constitutional authority as the Federal Drug War.

36 posted on 06/17/2003 7:36:18 AM PDT by jmc813 (After two years of FReeping, I've finally created a profile page. Check it out!)
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To: viligantcitizen
Because if MJ were legal, it would be grown outside in the dirt.

You mean like this?


37 posted on 06/17/2003 7:36:46 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: jmc813
In my state I would like to see hard drugs remain illegal.......

That's where you part company with Leroy who seems to have gotten unstoned enough to recover his FR password.
38 posted on 06/17/2003 7:37:00 AM PDT by dennisw (What wit!)
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To: dennisw
How's yr 50 latest posts doing?

How's yr spelling doing?

39 posted on 06/17/2003 7:37:34 AM PDT by jmc813 (After two years of FReeping, I've finally created a profile page. Check it out!)
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To: chance33_98
A high electric bill supposedly attracts DEA attention so that's probably why they are turning to diesel generators.

Unintended consequences to the Drug War...

*adds pollution to the long list*
40 posted on 06/17/2003 7:38:57 AM PDT by Z10N157
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